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« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2006, 09:45:11 AM »

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« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2006, 09:46:17 AM »

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« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2006, 10:13:04 AM »

Disgusting! Nay

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« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2006, 10:47:18 AM »

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« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2006, 11:20:43 AM »


I wonder if you think it is disgusting to allow someone the freedom to consent to sex after death or for someone to consent to view pornography.  Both?
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« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2006, 01:32:03 PM »

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« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2006, 02:00:51 PM »

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« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2006, 04:14:08 PM »

Bumping up Ilikeverin's absentee vote for all to see.


Nope on SoS's amendment if it comes up when I'm away
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« Reply #58 on: June 22, 2006, 05:37:03 AM »


I wonder if you think it is disgusting to allow someone the freedom to consent to sex after death or for someone to consent to view pornography.  Both?

In the case of allowing someone the freedom to consent to sex after death most certainly. Necrophilia is depravity consensual or not!

In the case of allowing 10 year olds to purchase pornography, I just think 10 is way too young

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« Reply #59 on: June 22, 2006, 07:35:06 AM »

In the case of allowing someone the freedom to consent to sex after death most certainly. Necrophilia is depravity consensual or not!

In the case of allowing 10 year olds to purchase pornography, I just think 10 is way too young

I must agree with both of these sentiments.

Particularly where necrophilia is concerned: if a person has sexual relations with a human corpse belonging to a person who died 23 hours beforehand, he is guilty of no crime; if he does the same act two hours later he is eligible for up to five years in prison and/or a very hefty fine of $10,000.  While we need to draw arbitrary cut-off lines for many purposes, giving a period of only 24 hours to perform the act is practically unenforceable and a potential loophole for habitual necrophiliacs.  Additionally, the amendment specifies that the "person" must be clear of any diseases; who is this referring to, the necrophiliac or the defiled corpse?  Assuming it is referring to the latter, I'd venture to say that anyone who wants to fuck a corpse probably deserves whatever disease he might get.  If the idea of the amendment is to allow necrophilia on the basis that it is a matter of consent, why would someone be barred from having sex with a corpse if it has a "disease" when they would not be prohibited from having sex with a diseased living person?
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« Reply #60 on: June 22, 2006, 06:37:05 PM »

Nay to the amendment.
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« Reply #61 on: June 23, 2006, 06:51:02 AM »

This amendment has failed.
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« Reply #62 on: June 24, 2006, 06:58:27 AM »

I hereby open up the final vote on this bill. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.


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« Reply #63 on: June 24, 2006, 06:58:56 AM »

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« Reply #64 on: June 24, 2006, 07:56:30 AM »


So, why can't our territories vote in their own laws regarding "sex crimes"?
What is the need for federal legislation here?

Because they are "federal" territories, which do not form part of any Region

Yes, but they have self government powers, which can, of course, be overidden by the federal government. I'm not saying there isn't a need for this bill, I'd just like to know what is wrong with the current laws the territories have in place for this crimes that justify federal intervantion.

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As for the gun rights act, as you said it had a constitutional justification.
As for the abortion thing, I think I was away during that time, but I certainly don't recall actively supporting it.
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« Reply #65 on: June 24, 2006, 08:25:23 AM »

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« Reply #66 on: June 24, 2006, 10:47:39 AM »

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« Reply #67 on: June 24, 2006, 11:29:33 AM »

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« Reply #68 on: June 24, 2006, 06:24:56 PM »

Aye

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« Reply #69 on: June 24, 2006, 07:02:39 PM »

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« Reply #70 on: June 25, 2006, 08:10:03 AM »
« Edited: June 25, 2006, 05:47:07 PM by Senator MasterJedi, PPT »

Vote Tally on Final Passage

3 Aye (MasterJedi, Gabu, Dave Hawk)
3 Nay (Keystone Phil, EarlAW, Speed of Sound)
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« Reply #71 on: June 26, 2006, 09:51:26 AM »

Aye.
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« Reply #72 on: June 26, 2006, 10:54:59 AM »

Despite my strong misgivings about lowering the age of consent to 16, I agree with practically everything else in the bill. 

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« Reply #73 on: June 26, 2006, 02:32:34 PM »

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« Reply #74 on: June 26, 2006, 02:33:47 PM »

This bill has enough votes to pass. Senators now have 24 hours to change their votes.
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