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« on: January 18, 2004, 09:00:34 AM »

In the summer, McGovern said that "dean's campaign reminds me of what we did 30 years ago."  So I thought he was going to endorse dean, but it turns out that he wasn't.

As seen with Harkin's endorsement, endorsements don't matter all that much unless the endorser is a major political figure (i.e. Al gore.)
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2004, 05:32:45 PM »

The only way that Clark (or Dean, or anyone) will be another McGovern is if Bush does to the Dem nominee what Nixon did to McGovern. If Bush pulls a Watergate, sure he can win by 20 points.

People always forget that about 1972. Sure McGovern was made out to be a far leftist, but it didn't hurt that Nixon stole his campaign plans and bugged the DNC!
Nixon would have won even if Nixon didn't cheat.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2004, 05:38:01 PM »

Nixon had a big ego, he couldn't handle the thought of a second presidential defeat.  So he cheated.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2004, 05:39:24 PM »

He wasn't all that bad of a president however.  I mean, he wasn't good, but there are worse.
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2004, 06:34:27 PM »

He wasn't all that bad of a president however.  I mean, he wasn't good, but there are worse.

He did some good things, and some bad things. Overall, I think he was pretty bad, but I agree that there have been worse.
I think he was the first president to fight for universal health care.  Not sure though.
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2004, 08:57:12 PM »

I remember when Clinton was fighting for Universial health care in 1993/4, Nixon came to the white house and said something to the effect of "we tried to do this 20 years ago."

I don't understand my conservatives hate Clinton, his policies hardly were far left and he helped them win huge gain in 1994.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2004, 09:10:17 PM »

And both men won twice.
I did not hate Nixon.
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2004, 09:20:19 PM »

Clinton really didn't do any big things, other than the conservative repeal of the welfare entitlement.  
NAFTA?  Most conservatives do agree with NAFTA and the left is dead set against it.  Although the only issue I am truly a conservative on is free trade.
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2004, 09:40:25 PM »

Well, you're right, Clinton will be mostly remember for the scandal, not his presidency.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2004, 10:44:52 PM »

Mondale and McGovern have no following.  McGovern's endorsement doesn't hurt Clark, it just doesn't do anything.
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