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kashifsakhan
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« on: July 01, 2006, 09:22:06 PM »

How would WWII have panned out had USA not gotten involved in Europe?

Pearl Harbour still takes place, and USA does enter the war, but only stays in the Pacific arena. How does this affect the war in Europe, and the outcome of it?
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2006, 09:28:19 PM »

What?

Germany declared war on us right after Pearl Harbor.  There was no avoiding the war in Europe at that point.
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2006, 10:13:03 PM »

lets say they dont declare war on the US. what happens then?
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2006, 01:51:51 AM »

1942 happens prety mush as n OTL.  Lend Lease will be contnued not only because Japan is also at war with Britain and the Netherlands, but it can be argued that helping the British and the Soviets do their war keeps us focused on ours.  Operation Torch likely goes off on schedule but without American involvement.

1943 is where differences beigin to show up.  We retake the Aleutians early and send many more bombers there and to India. The Anglo-Canadian advance in North Africa is slower, as well as the Italian camoaign that follows.

1944 sees events go really different from OTL.  TThe Philippines are liberated and Thailand gets occupied before they get the chance to distance themselves from the Japanese.  There is no D-Day in France and the Russians are not able to advance as fast.

1945 sees landings on Sakhalin and Okinawa as well as the liberation of Formosa and Indochina.  The Japanese surrender after the A-bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki  In Europe, Churchill continyes his underbelly strategy, landing in Greece, abd occupying it, Bulgaria, Albania and Southern Yugoslavia before the Russians can.

The spring of 1946 sees Russia occupying Germany and Austria while the  British liberate Norway, France and the Low Countries.  American troops assist the Chinese Nationalists against Mao who has recevied far less from the Soviets than in OTL.

The British and Russians reach an understanding concerning Europe.  The British abandon the Polish nationalists and the Russians the French communists.  Russia occupies most of Germany with the exception of Hannover, Westphalia, and the Rhineland.

Because the Soviets never received the "they are are our friends and allies" propoganda treatment, the US doesn't go through the wide swings in opinion towards them.

An extra year of war means far fewer European Jews escaped the hands of eth Nazis and more of them that have survived remain in Soviet controlled territories.  far fewer Jews head to Palestine after the war and the Jews accept the idea of a unitary instead of a partitioned Palestine, tho Zionist terrorism will persist for another decade, before the last of them either retires, dies, or is captured.
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