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ThePrezMex
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« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2004, 02:50:40 PM »

2004-2008 John Kerry/Evan Bayh (D)
2008-2012 Evan Bayh/Alex Penelas (D) over Bill Owens/Chuck Hagel (R)
2012-2016 Bayh/Penelas over Hagel/Powell
2016-2020 Bobby Jindal/George P. Bush (R) over Penelas/Harold Ford (D)
2020-2024 Jindal/Bush again (R)
2024-2028 First Hispanic Pres (D)
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« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2004, 02:53:51 PM »

2004-2008 John Kerry/Evan Bayh (D)
2008-2012 Evan Bayh/Alex Penelas (D) over Bill Owens/Chuck Hagel (R)
2012-2016 Bayh/Penelas over Hagel/Powell
2016-2020 Bobby Jindal/George P. Bush (R) over Penelas/Harold Ford (D)
2020-2024 Jindal/Bush again (R)
2024-2028 First Hispanic Pres (D)

Why won't Kerry run for re-election?
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« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2004, 02:55:15 PM »
« Edited: June 08, 2004, 02:55:46 PM by Gov. NickG »

2016 - Stephanie Herseth!

or 2020 if Edwards is re-elected.
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« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2004, 02:56:22 PM »

Harold Ford/ Russ Feingold (DEM) 2016-2024
In my dreams.  I'm a big Harold Ford fan.  He's a well reasoned centrist.  Those on the far right probably dislike him because he is left of center, and those on the far left probably dislike him because he's "tainting" the Democratic party with his moderate politics.  He's also very well spoken and presidential.  I hope you're right... we'll see.

I think that if he wins his senate race in 2006 (when Frist has said he will retire) he will be a really "hot property" within the Democratic Party. 2012-2024 is really his window to run for president and it’s pretty broad really he might even manage a run in 2028 if the chance hasn't presented its self by then. I like him a great deal he would have been so much better that Fu***** Pelosi... but ahh well, you right we will see...
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« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2004, 02:57:57 PM »

   

He is. He supports a bill that would censor left-leaning college professors.

I didn't know that but generally he is pretty "generic"... I would be interested to see the details of this bill or could you link me some coverage of it? Smiley ... But I doubt it can be that extreme
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« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2004, 03:19:37 PM »

2004-2008 John Kerry/Evan Bayh (D)
2008-2012 Evan Bayh/Alex Penelas (D) over Bill Owens/Chuck Hagel (R)
2012-2016 Bayh/Penelas over Hagel/Powell
2016-2020 Bobby Jindal/George P. Bush (R) over Penelas/Harold Ford (D)
2020-2024 Jindal/Bush again (R)
2024-2028 First Hispanic Pres (D)

Why won't Kerry run for re-election?

It was more interesting this way. Because of bad health after non stop fight against AlQaeda and sort.
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« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2004, 05:53:07 PM »

2005-2009: Kerry/Edwards
2009-2013: Mccain/Jeb Bush
2013-2021: Edwards/Richardson
2021- The end ot time: ?
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« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2004, 06:40:22 PM »

2005-2009: Kerry/Edwards
2009-2013: Mccain/Jeb Bush
2013-2021: Edwards/Richardson
2021- The end ot time: ?
Do you think that McCain would challenge Kerry? and choose as running mate a member of the Bush family? I don't think that would happen.
In 2009 McCain will be 73yo! (also Elizabeth Dole), so you all need to take age into consideration for your predictions.
Correction on my predictions: I was thinking about election years when I wrote that..so of course the actual periods should read: 2005-2009 not 2004-2008 as I posted.. sorry about that.
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« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2004, 06:53:24 PM »


Bush-2009
some democrat Edwards maybe 2009-2017
Mike Cox  2017-2025
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« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2004, 07:12:11 PM »

2004-bush
2008-McCain
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« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2004, 07:21:56 PM »

Let's see
2005-2013 Kerry
2013-2021 Mitt Romney
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« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2004, 07:25:25 PM »

To heck with Mitt... I want Bill Weld in there.  Is his unofficial ban from the Republican party removed now that Jesse Helms is gone?  :-)
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« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2004, 07:26:41 PM »

To heck with Mitt... I want Bill Weld in there.  Is his unofficial ban from the Republican party removed now that Jesse Helms is gone?  :-)
What happened with Bill Weld and Jesse Helms? And wouldn't Weld be 70 or so by then.
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« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2004, 07:43:06 PM »

What happened with Bill Weld and Jesse Helms? And wouldn't Weld be 70 or so by then.
Actually, he would be quite old by then.  But let's get him in sooner, then.  :-)

As for what happened between Helms and Weld... It was while Clinton was in office.  I forget the exact position Helms held, but it was something wherein he could block confirmations.  Clinton was attempting to appoint Weld to the post of Ambassador to Mexico.  Helms blocked the confirmation process because Weld was too soft on drug policy to be the U.S. Ambassador to Mexico.  Rather than get in a catfight with members of his own party, Weld graciously removed himself from consideration.  I was disgusted.  Anyone who lived in Massachusetts to see the fiscal mess Dukakis left us with (I lived in Massachusetts at the time) can truly appreciate how effectively Weld straightened things out.  Yes, I know, he leaves plenty for partisans on both sides of the aisle to whine about (fiscally conservative, socially liberal), but he was effective (and popular).

Incidentally, speaking of Weld... in case you're not aware, his name has been floated as a possible Senatorial appointment by Romney if Kerry wins in November!  It is UNLIKELY to happen (besides the fact that Kerry needs to win in November... a questionable prospect in the first place), but certainly COULD.
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« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2004, 07:56:17 PM »

What happened with Bill Weld and Jesse Helms? And wouldn't Weld be 70 or so by then.
Incidentally, speaking of Weld... in case you're not aware, his name has been floated as a possible Senatorial appointment by Romney if Kerry wins in November!  It is UNLIKELY to happen (besides the fact that Kerry needs to win in November... a questionable prospect in the first place), but certainly COULD.
Didn't he move to New York?
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« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2004, 08:03:57 PM »

Yes.  So, how can he be a Senator from Massachusetts?  I'm not sure.  Let's ask Hillary.  :-)  Seriously, though, I'm not sure if he's still in NY... he went there shortly after losing his Senate bid versus Kerry, but I'm not sure if he's still there.  Plus, he may well still have a residence (and might even make his official residence) in Mass.
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« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2004, 08:12:01 PM »
« Edited: June 08, 2004, 10:42:26 PM by Governor Wildcard »

Bush/Cheney 2001-2009
Senator Giuliani/Frist 2009-2017
Edwards 2017-2021
Condoleezza Rice 2021-2029
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« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2004, 08:45:08 PM »

If Bush is re-elected the Cheney would be the GOP Nominee for President in 2008 not Bill Frist or Elizabeth Dole...
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« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2004, 10:32:46 PM »

If Bush is re-elected the Cheney would be the GOP Nominee for President in 2008 not Bill Frist or Elizabeth Dole...

Personally I think Cheney's age, health, and total lack of charisma will keep the GOP from running him.  If Bush wins I think the GOP will go to the "Bush well" again in 2008 and run Jeb.
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« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2004, 10:48:18 PM »

If Bush is re-elected the Cheney would be the GOP Nominee for President in 2008 not Bill Frist or Elizabeth Dole...

Cheney has shown 0 interest in actually being president.  On top of that he is quite upopular and has health problems.

Compare him to the candidates who HAVE shown an interst, such as Owens, Frist, and Guiliani.
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« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2004, 11:04:26 PM »

Harold Ford/ Russ Feingold (DEM) 2016-2024
In my dreams.  I'm a big Harold Ford fan.  He's a well reasoned centrist.  Those on the far right probably dislike him because he is left of center, and those on the far left probably dislike him because he's "tainting" the Democratic party with his moderate politics.  He's also very well spoken and presidential.  I hope you're right... we'll see.

No chance of Harold Ford being president.  I don't even think he can win a senate seat in TN.
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« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2004, 11:20:19 PM »

2009- it will be Guiliani vs Edwards...
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« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2004, 11:28:09 PM »

Guiliani cant be president because he will not make it past the primaries.  He is far too socially liberal where it counts.  Elizabeth Dole ran for the senate to set up a presidential run.  She tried to run for president in 2000 but didnt have enough money.  More than that she is universally popular in the party.  She has been invited and attended 2004 rep senate campaign rallys in other states.  And if Hillary is running, republicans can offset any female advantage that Hillary has through Dole.  Dole is also seen as nicer than Hillary.  She will run.
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« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2004, 11:29:45 PM »

If the Republicans consider Giuliani too liberal, then they've got even worse problems than I thought.
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« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2004, 11:29:58 PM »

Guiliani cant be president because he will not make it past the primaries.  He is far too socially liberal where it counts.  Elizabeth Dole ran for the senate to set up a presidential run.  She tried to run for president in 2000 but didnt have enough money.  More than that she is universally popular in the party.  She has been invited and attended 2004 rep senate campaign rallys in other states.  And if Hillary is running, republicans can offset any female advantage that Hillary has through Dole.  Dole is also seen as nicer than Hillary.  She will run.

I would vote for E. Dole!!
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