Important Announcement

[Dr. Cynic]

The way I see it, legal and political action needs to be taken immidiately to prevent this kind of thing from happening again. Now, I know I'm not an office holder, but I implore the Senate to end this madness once and for all.

[TomC]

Impeachment time...

Whatever you may think about this situation the President has not committed any crime nor any misdemeanor. While you may not agree with his actions nothing that he has done thus far has been illegal.

While that question is still up in the air, what he has done is still unhealthy for Atlasia in that it grossly undemocratic. I'd call for his impeachment if I was convinced that the Senate has the balls to do it. Right now, I'm not so sure.

The President has been running the Senate for weeks. I believe Tradesports has the Senate growing balls at 10%.

This is the best thread ever!

[Colin]

The way I see it, legal and political action needs to be taken immidiately to prevent this kind of thing from happening again. Now, I know I'm not an office holder, but I implore the Senate to end this madness once and for all.

Like I said before the courts cannot do anything in this case since our precedent clearly states that the President isn't confined by the Constitution in what he can do, unlike the Senate. Whether action is taken to clear up the loophole is different but then again I don't see how you can do it. The President has many powers and, unlike the Senate's, would be hard to enumerate in a Constitution.

[Josh/Devilman88]

According to the Atlas Forum Constitution (Article II, Section 1) states the power of the Presidency. The President has no power to get say a senator can't be a senator.

[Colin]

According to the Atlas Forum Constitution (Article II, Section 1) states the power of the Presidency. The President has no power to get say a senator can't be a senator.

As the Sam Spade v. Ebowed decision stated the phrase, "The executive power shall be vested in the President of the Republic of Atlasia. He shall be elected with a Vice President for a term of approximately four months," does not limit the powers of the Presidency through a herein clause like in the section dealing with the powers of the legislative. The rest of the article details the cabinet, the president's power over the cabinet, minimum requirements for the Presidency, and the State of the Forum address. It does not, however, limit the President to these actions. It is just vested in the President not proscribed by the constitution.

[Dr. Cynic]

The way I see it, legal and political action needs to be taken immidiately to prevent this kind of thing from happening again. Now, I know I'm not an office holder, but I implore the Senate to end this madness once and for all.

Like I said before the courts cannot do anything in this case since our precedent clearly states that the President isn't confined by the Constitution in what he can do, unlike the Senate. Whether action is taken to clear up the loophole is different but then again I don't see how you can do it. The President has many powers and, unlike the Senate's, would be hard to enumerate in a Constitution.

But Mr. Wixted can you not see that this could pose a much more severe problem in the future? Why should any President be allowed to remove a Senator just because they don't agree on a nominee? Won't that eventually lead to the disintegration of the Senate, and allow any President to just do what they want without any fear of checks and balances. Clearly, you can see the danger in that.

[Ebowed]

Under Article II, Section 1, Clause 1 of the Constitution I am permitted to dismiss Senators as I deem fit.  Although an official justification is not necessary, I will provide one: Earl was serving in two positions at the same time, so I felt it appropriate to remove the potential conflict of interest by expelling him from the position in which his conflict of interest was more problematic.  I hope that we as Atlasias can recognize that this was a necessary step to ensuring true freedom in our legislative branch and the Atlasian media.

[Speed of Sound]

Under Article II, Section 1, Clause 1 of the Constitution I am permitted to dismiss Senators as I deem fit.  Although an official justification is not necessary, I will provide one: Earl was serving in two positions at the same time, so I felt it appropriate to remove the potential conflict of interest by expelling him from the position in which his conflict of interest was more problematic.  I hope that we as Atlasias can recognize that this was a necessary step to ensuring true freedom in our legislative branch and the Atlasian media.

you Ebowed, everyone already knows the real reason, so your crocks of sh**t wont help you this time.

Here, let me help you remember: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail

[Ebowed]

Here, let me help you remember: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail

Relevance?

[Speed of Sound]

Here, let me help you remember: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail

Relevance?

Relevance Ebowed? Youre not a dumb person Ebowed, nor do I believe you have a short term memory problem, so I feel repeating previously made arguments is unecessary.

[Ebowed]

Relevance Ebowed? Youre not a dumb person Ebowed, nor do I believe you have a short term memory problem, so I feel repeating previously made arguments is unecessary.

I'm afraid you are not being clear.  Are you accusing me of attempting to blackmail the former Senator?  If so, please provide proof for this allegation.

[Ebowed]

Under Article II, Section 1, Clause 1, I hereby barr Speed Of Sound from holding office in Atlasia for the next year.

Similarly, jerusalemcar5 is also fired from the Senate.

[Speed of Sound]

Under Article II, Section 1, Clause 1, I hereby barr Speed Of Sound from holding office in Atlasia for the next year.

Similarly, jerusalemcar5 is also fired from the Senate.

[jerusalemcar5]

 jerusalemcar5 is also fired from the Senate.

See if I give a sh*t.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

note this in the decision:

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This states that while the President has the ability to appoint such officers, he does not have the ability to fire anyone he chooses.

[Ebowed]

I hereby fire Captain Vlad from the Senate of Atlasia.

[adam]

I hereby fire Captain Vlad from the Senate of Atlasia.

I hereby tell you to kiss my ass.

[Speed of Sound]

One step closer to USSR!

T3H H@wtz0rs!!!!


Youre a true FF Vlad.

[adam]

I hereby fire Captain Vlad from the Senate of Atlasia.

I herevy tell you to kiss my ass.

I will sue you for sexual harassment.

You wouldn't be the first.

Ebowed, you're just a jack off. An infantile little brat of whom we have spoiled. You know people, this is just a forum...we don't really have to take this. Just ignore Ebowed and he will fail...it is our government now. Ebowed is just a puppet.

[Ebowed]

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You wouldn't be the first.

Oohhh, aren't you COOL?  Give me some tips, Vlad, I want to know how to be a complete fucktard of a womanizer too!

[Speed of Sound]

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You wouldn't be the first.

I want to know how to be a complete fucktard

Well, you cant teach those who already know the subject perfectly.

[adam]

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You wouldn't be the first.

Oohhh, aren't you COOL?  Give me some tips, Vlad, I want to know how to be a complete fucktard of a womanizer too!

Easy. Just be a man (for you this will require surgery) around poor women. If you sneeze it will be sexual harrassment. People need their money, or in your case something to take your mind off of your failures as a person.

[Speed of Sound]

Well, you cant teach those who already know the subject perfectly.

How's your book going, buddy?

Hows your sex with True Dem going, buddy?

[adam]

Well, you cant teach those who already know the subject perfectly.

How's your book going, buddy?

Hows your sex with True Dem going, buddy?

Bad. That's why he has been so grouchy lately.

[Speed of Sound]

Hows your sex with True Dem going, buddy?

Take the homophobic allegations out of this thread, dipshit.

Take the fascism out of this forum, asshole.