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« on: July 17, 2006, 01:19:47 AM »

If Hillary wins re-election in 2006 and loses in 2008, what will she do in 2012?  Will she run for re-election in the Senate, try for the Democrat Nomination for President, or retire from politics?
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2006, 02:05:07 AM »

If she runs & loses in 08, I don't think she would run again in 2012 for president.  As far as the senate race, who knows, but the seat is hers as long as she wants it.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2006, 11:21:19 AM »

If she runs & loses in 08, I don't think she would run again in 2012 for president.  As far as the senate race, who knows, but the seat is hers as long as she wants it.

She would make a formidable majority leader.
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2006, 03:04:22 PM »

As she will be 65 in 2012, I believe she would retire from active politics,  that is, from elected politics, go on the speaking circuit, serve on the boards of some corportions, and be a frequent guest commentator on political talk shows.

Her and Ann Coulter would get into some heated debates.   
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2006, 06:54:43 PM »

Her and Ann Coulter would get into some heated debates

Lets place a bet at Ann Coulter being allowed on television in 2012. =)
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2006, 05:04:00 PM »

Governor of New York perhaps? I would vomit if she was elected, but it would be her best bet.
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2006, 05:12:17 PM »

Governor of New York perhaps? I would vomit if she was elected, but it would be her best bet.

As was said before, she is starting to get up there in age in her late 50s or near 60.  I realize thats still young for politics, especially "higher level" offices such as Senate, Governor, and President, but I think she probably has enough in the tank to take her until the 2014 mid-terms or the 2016 Presidential elections, if she doesn't not get the White House in 2008.  If she somehow wins, in which case I would go into cardiac arrest, then she will be forced to leave Office in January 2017.  So, take heart, we may only have to deal with her for another 10 1/2 years!!
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2006, 01:32:53 AM »

Governor of New York perhaps? I would vomit if she was elected, but it would be her best bet.

As was said before, she is starting to get up there in age in her late 50s or near 60.  I realize thats still young for politics, especially "higher level" offices such as Senate, Governor, and President, but I think she probably has enough in the tank to take her until the 2014 mid-terms or the 2016 Presidential elections, if she doesn't not get the White House in 2008.  If she somehow wins, in which case I would go into cardiac arrest, then she will be forced to leave Office in January 2017.  So, take heart, we may only have to deal with her for another 10 1/2 years!!

The 2014 midterms??
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2006, 07:24:37 AM »

Governor of New York perhaps? I would vomit if she was elected, but it would be her best bet.

As was said before, she is starting to get up there in age in her late 50s or near 60.  I realize thats still young for politics, especially "higher level" offices such as Senate, Governor, and President, but I think she probably has enough in the tank to take her until the 2014 mid-terms or the 2016 Presidential elections, if she doesn't not get the White House in 2008.  If she somehow wins, in which case I would go into cardiac arrest, then she will be forced to leave Office in January 2017.  So, take heart, we may only have to deal with her for another 10 1/2 years!!

The 2014 midterms??

Come to think about it, her 3rd term in the Senate wouldn't be up until 2018, correct?  At any rate, that would make her in her early 70s, so it would be time for her to finally live in the same house as Bill again for their old age and live like normal elderly Americans.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2006, 05:05:46 PM »

I think '08 is Hillary's only "good" shot at the White House.
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2006, 04:57:04 PM »

If she runs & loses in 08, I don't think she would run again in 2012 for president.  As far as the senate race, who knows, but the seat is hers as long as she wants it.
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2006, 06:59:41 PM »

If she runs & loses in 08, I don't think she would run again in 2012 for president.  As far as the senate race, who knows, but the seat is hers as long as she wants it.

She will become President pro tempore in 2030. Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2006, 08:24:15 PM »

If she loses in 2008 (either in the primaries or the Pres. race), she will become a Ted Kennedy figure for the party - a perennial Senator on the party fringes with a big name but who very few people take seriously.
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2006, 10:16:34 PM »

If she loses in 2008 (either in the primaries or the Pres. race), she will become a Ted Kennedy figure for the party - a perennial Senator on the party fringes with a big name but who very few people take seriously.

I'm afraid that's the best outcome we could hope for.
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2006, 10:17:32 PM »

If she loses in 2008 (either in the primaries or the Pres. race), she will become a Ted Kennedy figure for the party - a perennial Senator on the party fringes with a big name but who very few people take seriously.

I'm afraid that's the best outcome we could hope for.

You should have voted for Kerry to prevent a Hillary Presidency.
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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2006, 10:39:00 PM »

If she loses in 2008 (either in the primaries or the Pres. race), she will become a Ted Kennedy figure for the party - a perennial Senator on the party fringes with a big name but who very few people take seriously.

I'm afraid that's the best outcome we could hope for.

You should have voted for Kerry to prevent a Hillary Presidency.

In a way I did, since my state's electoral votes went to Kerry.  A friend of mine actually made that argument -- he said that even though he preferred Bush and couldn't stand Kerry, he half preferred that Kerry won because he could live with a Kerry presidency, but he could never live with a Hillary presidency.
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2006, 10:45:36 PM »

If she loses in 2008 (either in the primaries or the Pres. race), she will become a Ted Kennedy figure for the party - a perennial Senator on the party fringes with a big name but who very few people take seriously.

I'm afraid that's the best outcome we could hope for.

You should have voted for Kerry to prevent a Hillary Presidency.

In a way I did, since my state's electoral votes went to Kerry.  A friend of mine actually made that argument -- he said that even though he preferred Bush and couldn't stand Kerry, he half preferred that Kerry won because he could live with a Kerry presidency, but he could never live with a Hillary presidency.

What's so bad about Hillary? Kerry has been much more vocal in criticizing Bush than Hillary has, and there is no evidence that Hillary is that much more liberal than Kerry. Of course, I don't think either of them are quite as liberal as they're made out to be.
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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2006, 10:46:21 PM »

Obviously the republic won't collapse no matter if Kerry or Hillary won.
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2006, 10:59:10 PM »

Kerry and Hillary are both moderates, although Hillary leans a bit further to the right.

Then again, this is politics and perception is reality. It doesn't matter how much Hillary panders to the right- conservatives will always see her as some kind of demonic socialist.
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2006, 11:00:42 PM »

Kerry isn't a moderate.  He's a typical party hack type, with about 30 other senators.  Hillary has compiled a moderate voting record but I'm sure it's all contrived, so believe what you'd like.
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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2006, 11:02:11 PM »

If Hillary wins re-election in 2006 and loses in 2008, what will she do in 2012?  Will she run for re-election in the Senate, try for the Democrat Nomination for President, or retire from politics?

I have no idea what she will do, but I have an idea on what she should do: assume a prominent leadership position within the Senate Democratic caucus, preferably as either Senate Majority Leader or Senate Minority Leader depending on whether Democrats win control of that chamber or not.  And above all stay in the Senate as long as she still has the energy for it.  Do not make another run for higher office, and better yet don't make any run for higher office at all.
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2006, 11:03:01 PM »

Kerry isn't a moderate.  He's a typical party hack type, with about 30 other senators.

Either way, he blows.
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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2006, 11:07:26 PM »

Kerry isn't a moderate.  He's a typical party hack type, with about 30 other senators.

Either way, he blows.

God I disagree with both of you. Clinton has a liberal voting record, as does Kerry. I just think they would/have govern/ed closer to the center as executives then their reputations (or perhaps voting records) suggest.

Kerry is not a good candidate and not a spectacular campaigner, but he would have made a decent President.
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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2006, 10:46:07 AM »

If she loses in 2008 (either in the primaries or the Pres. race), she will become a Ted Kennedy figure for the party - a perennial Senator on the party fringes with a big name but who very few people take seriously.

I'm afraid that's the best outcome we could hope for.

You should have voted for Kerry to prevent a Hillary Presidency.

In a way I did, since my state's electoral votes went to Kerry.  A friend of mine actually made that argument -- he said that even though he preferred Bush and couldn't stand Kerry, he half preferred that Kerry won because he could live with a Kerry presidency, but he could never live with a Hillary presidency.

What's so bad about Hillary? Kerry has been much more vocal in criticizing Bush than Hillary has, and there is no evidence that Hillary is that much more liberal than Kerry. Of course, I don't think either of them are quite as liberal as they're made out to be.

If you have to ask........Tongue
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