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« on: July 22, 2006, 09:28:37 pm »
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2006, 09:58:48 pm »
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Oh without a doubt it would survive. I think Bryan being a radical is way overblown. Silver was a problem, sure, but I doubt seriously that Bryan would've destroyed the country... Hell, we survived plenty of bad Presidents such as Nixon. I hardly think that if Bryan was bad, the U.S. would collapse. That theory makes no sense to me.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2006, 01:57:18 am »
Free coinage of silver wouldn't have sparked all that much inflation, tho it would have made silver mine owners very happy.  There even would have been a slight offset as the government switched from priniting United States Notes backed by nothing to Silver Certificates backed by silver.  We also probably wiould have seen a revaluation of the official gold to silver ratio as had happened in 1834, as that would have been necessary to preserve bimetallism.
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2006, 10:04:39 am »
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Yes although we'd be a lot different than we are now.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2006, 06:30:19 pm »
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atlas question:  in the states where bryan ran under the populist party, shouldnt his running mate be listed as tom watson, rather than arthur sewall?
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2006, 06:34:39 pm »
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Quote from: WalterMitty on July 23, 2006, 06:30:19 pm
atlas question:  in the states where bryan ran under the populist party, shouldnt his running mate be listed as tom watson, rather than arthur sewall?

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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2006, 06:43:04 pm »
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True. Watson should also be credited with the 27 Electoral votes that he won.
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2006, 09:10:21 am »
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Would have been interesting had Bryan won enough electoral votes to win the Presidency, but enough of the South voted for Watson to deny Sewall a majority...

Who had control of the Senate in '96 anyway?
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2006, 09:47:23 am »
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Quote from: Erc on July 26, 2006, 09:10:21 am
Would have been interesting had Bryan won enough electoral votes to win the Presidency, but enough of the South voted for Watson to deny Sewall a majority...

Who had control of the Senate in '96 anyway?

republicans, i think.

the gop gained seats in the midterms of 1894.
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2006, 05:21:10 pm »
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Would have been interesting had Bryan won enough electoral votes to win the Presidency, but enough of the South voted for Watson to deny Sewall a majority...

Who had control of the Senate in '96 anyway?

republicans, i think.

the gop gained seats in the midterms of 1894.

Not quite.  The Republicans had a minority majority.

Republicans:44
Democrats:40
Populists: 4
Silver Republicans: 2

I can't see those two Silver Republicans from Nevada voting to put Garret Hobart in as Vice President.
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2006, 10:58:45 pm »
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I can't quite see them putting in Arthur Sewall, either, who was equally a goldbug.
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2006, 02:46:23 pm »
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I don't think they would have put Tom Watson in either, who was quite the lunatic.
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2006, 04:29:14 pm »
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Quote from: Dr. Cynic on July 27, 2006, 02:46:23 pm
I don't think they would have put Tom Watson in either, who was quite the lunatic.

and bryan wasnt?
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2006, 05:39:41 pm »
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I mean personally. If you've ever read anything about Watson, you'd know that he was mean-spirited, rascist, narrow, shallow, egotistical, and callous.

Read up on the Leo Frank lynching to find out how fanatical Watson was... Comparitively, Bryan wasn't so bad.
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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2006, 05:54:41 pm »
Quote from: Dr. Cynic on July 27, 2006, 02:46:23 pm
I don't think they would have put Tom Watson in either, who was quite the lunatic.
I doubt if Watson would have made the top 2 and the VP choice is limited to just the top 2.
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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2006, 11:17:32 pm »
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Quote from: Dr. Cynic on July 27, 2006, 05:39:41 pm
I mean personally. If you've ever read anything about Watson, you'd know that he was mean-spirited, rascist, narrow, shallow, egotistical, and callous.

Read up on the Leo Frank lynching to find out how fanatical Watson was... Comparitively, Bryan wasn't so bad.

Watson...is an interesting character.  Very interesting character.  Quite a different man in 1896 than in 1913, in certain respects.

C. Vann Woodward wrote a very good book on the guy back in the day that I've been meaning to read.
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