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« Reply #50 on: June 11, 2004, 02:03:04 PM »
« edited: June 11, 2004, 02:04:28 PM by Michael Z »

Yes I know, scary thing is, they did better than that in my constituency, 12.4%.....

Oh well, Labour still comfortably carried it..... I must find and remove those fascists though..... A friend of mine (he is a Conservative) actually likes their policies.....

I have a nasty feeling about people like UKIP and the BNP, bearing in mind that most Germans didn't take Hitler seriously either during the mid-1920s (in fact the majority of Germans saw him as a laughing stock).

It probably borders on hysteria to suggest that what we see now is in any way comparable to the rise of European Fascism in the 1920s, but there are some historical similarities which do bother me. All it would take is a major economic crisis like the great depression and I may well have to consider emigrating to New Zealand.
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« Reply #51 on: June 11, 2004, 02:04:04 PM »

Urgh Bexley & Bromley Results:

 NAME PARTY VOTE % +/- % VOTES  
  Robert Neill CON 40.4 -6.8 64246  
  Duncan Borrowman LD 18.9 -2.8 29992  
  Heather Bennett UKIP 16.8 0 26703  
  Charles Mansell LAB 15.6 -6.4 24848  
  Ann Garrett GRN 5.1 -3.0 8069  
  Miranda Suit CPA 2.1 0 3397  
  Alun Morinan RESP 1.1 0 1673


UKIP beat Labour, 16.8% For crying out loud!!!!

In Bromley? Hardly surprising, to be honest.
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« Reply #52 on: June 11, 2004, 02:04:35 PM »

If you've been watching the 1 O'Clock news Al, you will probably be screaming because the BBC have pretty much called the next general election for the Tories.

The BBC are still bitter over the Hutton Report. They're trying to cause a panic among Labour MPs so they get rid of Blair. I mean, look at this:

"How bad is it for Blair?"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3796497.stm

Dunno about you guys, but to me it seems the BBC may well have a little agenda going on here.

The coverage has been disgraceful.
Assinder is a pompus jerk anyway...
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« Reply #53 on: June 11, 2004, 02:04:41 PM »

Urgh Bexley & Bromley Results:

 NAME PARTY VOTE % +/- % VOTES  
  Robert Neill CON 40.4 -6.8 64246  
  Duncan Borrowman LD 18.9 -2.8 29992  
  Heather Bennett UKIP 16.8 0 26703  
  Charles Mansell LAB 15.6 -6.4 24848  
  Ann Garrett GRN 5.1 -3.0 8069  
  Miranda Suit CPA 2.1 0 3397  
  Alun Morinan RESP 1.1 0 1673


UKIP beat Labour, 16.8% For crying out loud!!!!

In Bromley? Hardly surprising, to be honest.

Yes but still.......
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« Reply #54 on: June 11, 2004, 02:08:51 PM »
« Edited: June 11, 2004, 03:07:55 PM by John F. Kennedy »

Full Constituency Results:

Barnet & Camden:

Brian Coleman CON 35.3 2.4 47640  
  Lucy Anderson LAB 26.8 -5.7 36121  
  Jonathan Simpson LD 17.5 -0.2 23603  
  Miranda Dunn GRN 8.8 -2.9 11921  
  Magnus Nielsen UKIP 6.4 4.8 8685  
  Elisabeth Wheatley RESP 3.8 0 5150  
  Humberto Heliotrope CPA 1.4 0 1914


Bexley & Bromley:

Robert Neill CON 40.4 -6.8 64246  
  Duncan Borrowman LD 18.9 -2.8 29992  
  Heather Bennett UKIP 16.8 0 26703  
  Charles Mansell LAB 15.6 -6.4 24848  
  Ann Garrett GRN 5.1 -3.0 8069  
  Miranda Suit CPA 2.1 0 3397  
  Alun Morinan RESP 1.1 0 1673


Brent & Harrow:

Robert Blackman CON 34.0 0.8 39900  
  Toby Harris LAB 30.0 -7.6 35214  
  Havard Hughes LD 17.7 0.1 20782  
  Daniel Moss UKIP 6.1 0 7199  
  Mohammad Ali GRN 5.9 -3.1 6975  
  Albert Harriott RESP 3.9 0 4586  
  Gladstone Macaulay CPA 2.3 0 2734  


City & East:

John Biggs LAB 29.1 -16.9 38085  
  Shafi Choudhury CON 18.1 -1.4 23749  
  Oliur Rahman RESP 15.0 0 19675  
  Guy Burton LD 13.9 -4.6 18255  
  Christopher Pratt UKIP 13.8 0 17997  
  Terry McGrenera GRN 6.6 -5.4 8687  
  Christopher Gill CPA 3.4 0 4461


Croydon & Sutton:

Andrew Pelling CON 38.6 -2.0 52330  
  Steven Gauge LD 21.1 -4.5 28636  
  Sean Fitzsimons LAB 19.1 -5.7 25861  
  James Feisenberger UKIP 11.2 0 15203  
  Shasha Khan GRN 4.6 -2.9 6175  
  David Campanale CPA 3.1 0 4234  
  Waqas Hussain RESP 2.3 0 3108


Ealing & Hillingdon

Richard Barnes CON 32.4 -5.0 45230  
  Gurcharan Singh LAB 24.5 -7.2 34214  
  Michael Cox LD 16.8 -1.7 23440  
  David Malindine UKIP 10.5 0 14698  
  Sarah Edwards GRN 6.7 -3.1 9395  
  Dalawar Chaudhry IND 3.8 0 5285  
  Salvinder Dhillon RESP 3.0 0 4229  
  Genevieve Hibbs CPA 2.2 0 3024


Enfield & Haringey:

Joanne McCartney LAB 29.2 -3.0 33955  
  Peter Forrest CON 27.9 -1.3 32381  
  Wayne Hoban LD 17.0 3.6 19720  
  Brian Hall UKIP 9.2 0 10652  
  Jayne Forbes GRN 8.9 -1.2 10310  
  Sait Akgul RESP 5.9 0 6855  
  Peter Wolstenholme CPA 2.0 0 2365


Greenwich & Lewisham:

Leonard Duvall LAB 33.3 -9.2 36251  
  Gareth Bacon CON 20.4 -3.2 22168  
  Alexander Feakes LD 17.6 0.5 19183  
  Timothy Reynolds UKIP 12.4 0 13454  
  Susan Luxton GRN 10.4 -2.1 11271  
  Stephen Hammond CPA 3.3 0 3619  
  Ian Page RESP 2.6 0 2825  


Havering & Redbridge:

Jeremy Evans CON 34.6 -3.0 44723  
  Keith Darvill LAB 21.7 -8.3 28017  
  Lawrence Webb UKIP 14.2 0 18297  
  Matthew Lake LD 10.6 -2.3 13646  
  Malvin Brown RA 5.4 -6.4 6925  
  Ashley Gunstock GRN 4.7 -1.6 6009  
  Abdurahman Jafar RESP 4.0 0 5185  
  Juliet Hawkins CPA 2.3 0 2917  
  David Stephens TW 1.6 0 2031  
  Peter Thorogood IND 1.2 0 1597


Lambeth & Southwark:

Valerie Shawcross LAB 31.7 -5.9 36280  
  Caroline Pidgeon LD 26.9 4.7 30805  
  Bernard Gentry CON 15.2 -3.9 17379  
  Shane Collins GRN 10.4 -2.7 11900  
  Frank Maloney UKIP 7.7 0 8776  
  Janet Noble RESP 4.3 0 4930  
  Simisola Lawanson CPA 3.2 0 3655  
  Navindh Baburam IND 0.5 0 608


Merton & Wandsworth:

Elizabeth Howlett CON 38.8 -0.7 48295  
  Kathryn Smith LAB 25.3 -3.0 31417  
  Andrew Martin LD 14.4 3.5 17864  
  Roy Vickery GRN 8.2 0.8 10163  
  Adrian Roberts UKIP 6.7 0 8327  
  Ruairidh Maclean RESP 3.5 0 4291  
  Ellen Greco CPA 2.2 0 2782  
  Rathy Alagaratnam IND 1.0 0 1240


North East:

Jennette Arnold LAB 29.1 -7.1 37380  
  Terry Stacy LD 18.7 -2.5 24042  
  Andrew Boff CON 18.1 0.2 23264  
  Jon Nott GRN 13.0 -2.6 16739  
  Robert Selby UKIP 8.9 0 11459  
  Dean Ryan RESP 8.7 0 11184  
  Andrew Otchie CPA 2.5 0 3219  
  James Beavis CPB 1.1 0 1378


South West:

Tony Arbour CON 33.0 -2.4 48858  
  Dee Doocey LD 30.3 0.0 44791  
  Seema Malhotra LAB 17.0 -5.8 25225  
  Alan Hindle UKIP 8.4 0 12477  
  Judy Maciejowska GRN 6.7 -3.2 9866  
  Omar Waraich RESP 2.6 0 3785  
  Peter Flower CPA 2.0 0 3008


West Central:

Angela Bray CON 44.7 0.5 51884  
  Ansuya Sodha LAB 18.9 -8.2 21940  
  Francesco Fruzza LD 15.1 1.9 17478  
  Julia Stephenson GRN 9.3 -2.2 10762  
  Nicholas Hockney UKIP 6.2 0 7219  
  Kevin Cobham RESP 4.2 0 4825  
  Jillian McLachlan CPA 1.7 0 1993

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« Reply #55 on: June 11, 2004, 02:13:37 PM »

Havering & Redbridge:

Jeremy Evans CON 34.6 -3.0 44723  
  Keith Darvill LAB 21.7 -8.3 28017  
  Lawrence Webb UKIP 14.2 0 18297  
  Matthew Lake LD 10.6 -2.3 13646  
  Malvin Brown RA 5.4 -6.4 6925  
  Ashley Gunstock GRN 4.7 -1.6 6009  
  Abdurahman Jafar RESP 4.0 0 5185  
  Juliet Hawkins CPA 2.3 0 2917  
  David Stephens TW 1.6 0 2031  
  Peter Thorogood IND 1.2 0 1597

Ah, my local results.

UKIP in third place??? At any rate, what exactly does an anti-European party have to do with local issues?
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« Reply #56 on: June 11, 2004, 02:15:32 PM »

By the way, the number after the percentage is the percentage change since the last election.
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« Reply #57 on: June 11, 2004, 02:15:43 PM »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3799861.stm

The BNP beat the Greens in the Mayoral Race. Not good, not good at all
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« Reply #58 on: June 11, 2004, 02:19:17 PM »

I think these are first preference thingys:

Livingstone   Lab              685,541
Norris            Con              542,423
Hughes         LD                284,645
Maloney        UKIP             115,665
German         Resp./Gall.      67,731
    ?                BNP                58,541
    ?                Green             57,331

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« Reply #59 on: June 11, 2004, 02:21:14 PM »

I think these are first preference thingys:

Livingstone   Lab              685,541
Norris            Con              542,423
Hughes         LD                284,645
Maloney        UKIP             115,665
German         Resp./Gall.      67,731
    ?                BNP                58,541
    ?                Green             57,331



BNP -  Leppert
Green - Johnson
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« Reply #60 on: June 11, 2004, 02:21:40 PM »

Darren Johnson was the Green Candidate
Julian Leppert was the BNP candidate
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« Reply #61 on: June 11, 2004, 02:23:25 PM »


No, it isn't. Sad
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« Reply #62 on: June 11, 2004, 02:26:45 PM »

What were the 2nd Pref. votes?
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« Reply #63 on: June 11, 2004, 02:26:51 PM »

Darren Johnson was the Green Candidate
Julian Leppert was the BNP candidate

Truth be told, Darren Johnson was an extremely lacklustre candidate for the Greens. He never aroused much sympathy in me. That and he took part in what had to be one of the worst party political adverts in history (some hip hop group rapping "Vote Green, keep it clean!" etc. It was extremely cringe-inducing and didn't do the Green Party any favours.)
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« Reply #64 on: June 11, 2004, 02:27:54 PM »

Darren Johnson was the Green Candidate
Julian Leppert was the BNP candidate

Truth be told, Darren Johnson was an extremely lacklustre candidate for the Greens. He never aroused much sympathy in me. That and he took part in what had to be one of the worst party political adverts in history (some hip hop group rapping "Vote Green, keep it clean!" etc. It was extremely cringe-inducing and didn't do the Green Party any favours.)

Was he the one with the weird teeth?
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« Reply #65 on: June 11, 2004, 02:30:18 PM »

Darren Johnson was the Green Candidate
Julian Leppert was the BNP candidate

Truth be told, Darren Johnson was an extremely lacklustre candidate for the Greens. He never aroused much sympathy in me. That and he took part in what had to be one of the worst party political adverts in history (some hip hop group rapping "Vote Green, keep it clean!" etc. It was extremely cringe-inducing and didn't do the Green Party any favours.)

Oh yeah! He was the one who rapped about his party on the radio! LOL!
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« Reply #66 on: June 11, 2004, 02:32:47 PM »

What were the 2nd Pref. votes?

We don't have them yet, all we have is what BBC has reported so far, only first preference votes.
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« Reply #67 on: June 11, 2004, 02:43:45 PM »
« Edited: June 11, 2004, 02:47:29 PM by Gore for President »

All first and second preferences for Mayor:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/vote2004/london/html/front.stm

These votes aren't right though,; They give a 16% turnout.
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« Reply #68 on: June 11, 2004, 02:47:07 PM »


Livingstone LAB 288925 34.3 110179 15.5 399104  
  Norris CON 257069 30.5 106002 14.9 363071  
  Hughes LD 127177 15.1 203143 28.6 N/A  
  Maloney UKIP 58319 6.9 93262 13.1 N/A  
  German RESP 36052 3.7 33444 4.1 N/A  
  Leppert BNP 29333 3.5 34723 4.9 N/A  
  Johnson GRN 26741 2.8 96810 11.9 N/A  
  Gidoomal CPA 22476 2.3 29925 3.7 N/A  
  Reid IWCA 4741 0.5 20295 2.5 N/A  
  Nagalingam IND 3843 0.4 11004 1.4 N/A
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« Reply #69 on: June 11, 2004, 02:48:34 PM »


Livingstone LAB 288925 34.3 110179 15.5 399104  
  Norris CON 257069 30.5 106002 14.9 363071  
  Hughes LD 127177 15.1 203143 28.6 N/A  
  Maloney UKIP 58319 6.9 93262 13.1 N/A  
  German RESP 36052 3.7 33444 4.1 N/A  
  Leppert BNP 29333 3.5 34723 4.9 N/A  
  Johnson GRN 26741 2.8 96810 11.9 N/A  
  Gidoomal CPA 22476 2.3 29925 3.7 N/A  
  Reid IWCA 4741 0.5 20295 2.5 N/A  
  Nagalingam IND 3843 0.4 11004 1.4 N/A


These numbers are far too low to be the actual results - looks the beeb ed up.
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« Reply #70 on: June 11, 2004, 02:50:36 PM »


Livingstone LAB 288925 34.3 110179 15.5 399104  
  Norris CON 257069 30.5 106002 14.9 363071  
  Hughes LD 127177 15.1 203143 28.6 N/A  
  Maloney UKIP 58319 6.9 93262 13.1 N/A  
  German RESP 36052 3.7 33444 4.1 N/A  
  Leppert BNP 29333 3.5 34723 4.9 N/A  
  Johnson GRN 26741 2.8 96810 11.9 N/A  
  Gidoomal CPA 22476 2.3 29925 3.7 N/A  
  Reid IWCA 4741 0.5 20295 2.5 N/A  
  Nagalingam IND 3843 0.4 11004 1.4 N/A


These numbers are far too low to be the actual results - looks the beeb f**cked up.

Not like the Scottish Elections *again*HuhHuh
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« Reply #71 on: June 11, 2004, 03:03:19 PM »

Okey dokey.
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« Reply #72 on: June 11, 2004, 03:08:23 PM »

Updated the Constituencies data, all reports now in.
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« Reply #73 on: June 11, 2004, 03:09:52 PM »

I voted in Scotland on Thursday, European elections only up here. With a heavy heart, I voted Conservative. With such a split electorate, there are rumours that the Tories could come a close second or shock horror FIRST! Scotland has never been in on the whole Lib Dem thing, and its only geography that give them the seats that they do, and Tommy Sheridans socialists have divided opinion, equally loved and loathed by many. I even shouted at the man on Buchanan Street, Glasgow yesterday evening. In England, frustrated Labour voters often turn to the Lib Dems, but in Scotland the votes go everywhere. Hardcore votes go to the SSP, traditional Labour or 'old' Labour to the SNP, liberal minded voters to the Lib Dems, and middle class progressives like me to the Tories. It should be interesting to see what happens. No one party will take more that 25% up here.
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« Reply #74 on: June 12, 2004, 04:35:38 AM »
« Edited: June 12, 2004, 04:59:58 AM by Al »

I've just noticed something odd about the local results. And it wasn't mentioned on the news or the BBC internet site:

This is a list of all the councils Labour lost overall control/lost to another party:

Newcastle
Leeds
Bassetlaw
Burnley
Cardiff
St Helens
Oxford
Ipswich
Swansea
Hastings
Doncaster
Bridgend
Slough
Tamworth
Thurrock

Of those, these have been involved in *major* scandels/dodgy leaders etc:

Cardiff
Oxford
Swansea
Doncaster

But most interesting is this. The following have large "Progressive Yuppy" population:

Newcastle
Leeds
Cardiff
Oxford
Ipswich
Swansea
Hastings
Slough

While the following have lots of [middle class] suburbs/commuting "villages":

Newcastle
Leeds
Bassetlaw
Cardiff
Swansea
Bridgend
Tamworth
Thurrock

Meanwhile this is a list of the councils that Labour won over control over:

Stoke
Hartlepool
Rhondda Cynon Taff
Caerphilly
Redditch
Newcastle-under-Lyme
Merthyr

Of those the following could be described as having a *very* large working class population:

Stoke
Hartlepool
Rhondda Cynon Taff
Caerphilly
Newcastle-under-Lyme
Merthyr

Go figure.
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