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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2004, 03:17:18 am »
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Quote from: ATFFL on June 11, 2004, 09:19:25 pm
Edwards did not run for re-election because he knew he would be toast, not to concentrate on his Presidential run

Not true. What most people forget is that he still had a decent lead over Burr in the polls.
However NC's 2nd Senate seat is cursed. No incumbent has one re-election in it since Ervin.
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« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2004, 07:11:45 am »
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Quote from: Josh22 on June 11, 2004, 08:29:16 pm
Hate you tell you boss but Republican and Democrats will tell you Edwards sukced at being a senator.

That's funny.  Because polls showed he would have won re-election by about 10% if he had ran.

Maybe you, in your sheltered world, have been told that he sucked.  But a majority of NCers would beg to differ.
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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2004, 07:39:43 am »
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burr would have a good chance of beating edwards.

right now, bowles has a *lead* over burr, mainly due to name recognition.

i hope to god both candidates dont try to out-protectionist one another.
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« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2004, 07:46:35 am »
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Edwards is a better candidate than Bowles
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« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2004, 08:14:06 am »
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Quote from: WalterMitty on June 12, 2004, 07:39:43 am
burr would have a good chance of beating edwards.

right now, bowles has a *lead* over burr, mainly due to name recognition.

i hope to god both candidates dont try to out-protectionist one another.

It's the only way that Burr can win at present...
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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2004, 10:41:54 am »
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Quote from: Boss Tweed on June 12, 2004, 07:46:35 am
Edwards is a better candidate than Bowles

FOr once boss you are right..
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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2004, 11:09:42 am »
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A few points: Perot ran weakest in the South, so Clinton would still have done about as good in the South as he did with Perot. Look at the changes from 1992 to 1996 if you want to...now Montana is a state that was obviously Peroted, for instance. But the South was probably less affected than the South-West or the Northeast.

The Edwards-bashers are forgetting that Kerry beat Edwards in Southern, that's true, DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES! They're not at all representative. And then there's a ton of other points to make as well.

And Edwards does do well among independents.
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« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2004, 11:12:50 am »
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gustaf:  dont forget georgia.  perot certainly had an effect on the 92 results in the peach state.
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« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2004, 11:18:58 am »
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Well NC went to Bush sr, and Dole so it wont be going for Edwards Cheesy
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« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2004, 11:21:33 am »
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Well NC went to Bush sr, and Dole so it wont be going for Edwards Cheesy

Clinton's home state: Arkansas
Edwards' home state: North Carolina

Edwards would get a boost in NC that Clinton didn't have.
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« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2004, 11:35:14 am »
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Well NC went to Bush sr, and Dole so it wont be going for Edwards Cheesy

Clinton's home state: Arkansas
Edwards' home state: North Carolina

Edwards would get a boost in NC that Clinton didn't have.

Yes but he will not win the state Tongue
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« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2004, 11:35:50 am »
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Yes but he will not win the state Tongue

He isn't running this year.
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« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2004, 11:36:18 am »
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did not say he did.
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« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2004, 05:56:21 am »
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Well NC went to Bush sr, and Dole so it wont be going for Edwards Cheesy

By very small margins. When Bubba wasn't really targeting the state. Before the implosion of the Textile industry.
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« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2004, 09:13:08 am »
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One Point about Perot…

The majority of people who voted for him, further down the balloted, voted for Dems in the senate contests and the Gubernational contests while most of them voted for Republicans in the House contests. So without Perot Clinton would still have won. A final point when Perot briefly exited the race his support generally flowed to Clinton and in fact the reason he gave for exiting the race was because the he believed that the Democrats had become a credible party at the presidential level once again.

So in short… No Perot = Clinton wins.        
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« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2004, 10:45:52 am »
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al:  clinton/gore DID target nc in the 92 campaign.  not only did they buy ads, but both visited the state on several occasions during the campaign.
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al:  clinton/gore DID target nc in the 92 campaign.  not only did they buy ads, but both visited the state on several occasions during the campaign.



True. But political climates change... if '92 happend now, Bubba would win NC.
But lose MT.
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« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2004, 02:44:35 pm »
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He would also win Florida.
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« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2004, 02:52:43 pm »
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clinton came reasonably close in texas in 92.
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« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2004, 03:00:28 pm »
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If the Dems ran a moderate bubba in '04 rather than a pansy liberal, this would be the result:
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« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2004, 03:02:38 pm »
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you may be right, nut.  i think joe lieberman would have performed really well.
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Quote from: BushKenya on May 18, 2013, 05:59:26 pm
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« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2004, 03:33:30 pm »
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By very small margins. When Bubba wasn't really targeting the state. Before the implosion of the Textile industry.

The textile industry is centered in SC-04 and NC-10, which are both GOP held seats whose incumbents have retired.  Do you think that the seats are vulnerable?
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« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2004, 03:41:25 pm »
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If the Dems ran a moderate bubba in '04 rather than a pansy liberal, this would be the result:



Your map is crazy.  Go back and read your history books Tongue
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« Reply #48 on: June 13, 2004, 03:51:55 pm »
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did you read the scenario for that map?
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« Reply #49 on: June 13, 2004, 03:56:36 pm »
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did you read the scenario for that map?

Yes Tongue

It would be like this.. Now don't get me wrong I like bush alot, but if a Mod dem run it would happen like this...
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