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David S
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« on: August 09, 2006, 06:09:47 PM »

If Lieberman runs for senate as an independent the move will set up a three-way race this fall among Lamont, Lieberman and Republican Alan Schlesinger. Does that increase the chance of the Republican getting elected?
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2006, 06:15:15 PM »

From 0% to 0%. So no.
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2006, 06:21:01 PM »

In CT? Nooooo. But it might increase the chance of the Republicans voting for Joe. Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2006, 06:21:53 PM »

Well, now it takes TWO dead prostitutes for the Republican to have a chance.
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2006, 06:55:29 PM »

No, because Schlesinger has no chance anyway.
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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2006, 07:03:53 PM »

No, because Schlesinger has no chance anyway.


The only way an R wins is if Jodi Rell or Shays jumps in for Schlesinger.

Joe's gonna get about 70% of the GOP vote now.
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2006, 07:11:31 PM »

Schlesinger will likely dropout once the race officially becomes Lamont v. Lieberman in the polls.
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2006, 08:56:16 PM »

No, because Schlesinger has no chance anyway.


The only way an R wins is if Jodi Rell or Shays jumps in for Schlesinger.

Joe's gonna get about 70% of the GOP vote now.

Which would require them to abandon their own races. Why would Rell leave a certain Gubernatorial reelection race to enter the Senate race? And likewise Shays is not going to change from the House race to the Senate in midstream either.

And the only way any of that could happen is if Schlesinger voluntarily chooses to drop out, which he is highly unlikely to do. That would require him admitting he has no chance to win, which politicians really don't like to do.
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2006, 09:15:24 PM »

It would increase the victory chances of a viable Republican candidate.

But Schlesinger is not viable.  It will be essentially a race between Lieberman and Lamont, and I expect Lieberman to win.
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2006, 09:16:24 PM »

Does that increase the chance of the Republican getting elected?

Of course, from about 5% to 10%.
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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2006, 09:29:26 PM »

It would increase the victory chances of a viable Republican candidate.

But Schlesinger is not viable.  It will be essentially a race between Lieberman and Lamont, and I expect Lieberman to win.

Will you be voting for Joe like dazzle?

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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2006, 10:31:54 PM »

Dazzleman would probably be a better candidate and get a higher percentage in this race than Schlesinger, if that'll tell you anything.
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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2006, 10:33:47 PM »

Dazzleman would probably be a better candidate and get a higher percentage in this race than Schlesinger, if that'll tell you anything.

Maybe Dazzleman should enter the race. Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2006, 10:35:21 PM »

It would increase the victory chances of a viable Republican candidate.

But Schlesinger is not viable.  It will be essentially a race between Lieberman and Lamont, and I expect Lieberman to win.

Will you be voting for Joe like dazzle?

Dave

Yes, I intend to vote for Joe Lieberman.  He's the only choice I consider viable in the general election.
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2006, 10:36:01 PM »

Dazzleman would probably be a better candidate and get a higher percentage in this race than Schlesinger, if that'll tell you anything.

Maybe Dazzleman should enter the race. Smiley

Well, I was thinking about it, but it seems I've missed the deadline to submit the signatures necessary to get on the ballot.  Maybe next time...Cheesy
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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2006, 10:37:29 PM »

Lieberman is the de-facto Republican candidate and I expect Republicans to vote for him overwhelmingly.
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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2006, 10:39:03 PM »

Lieberman is the de-facto Republican candidate and I expect Republicans to vote for him overwhelmingly.

It's not as if we have anywhere else to go.

Though he's hardly a Republican on most issues, as far as I can tell.  Republicans don't normally brag about their ties to Planned Parenthood.
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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2006, 11:04:22 PM »

Lieberman is the de-facto Republican candidate and I expect Republicans to vote for him overwhelmingly.

It's not as if we have anywhere else to go.

Though he's hardly a Republican on most issues, as far as I can tell.  Republicans don't normally brag about their ties to Planned Parenthood.

That's exactly what I'm thinking, Dazzleman. Republicans would be turned off by Joe Lieberman if they looked at his stances on domestic issues. I'm quite suprised he gets so much support from the GOP, to be perfectly honest.
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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2006, 11:09:49 PM »

Lieberman is the de-facto Republican candidate and I expect Republicans to vote for him overwhelmingly.

It's not as if we have anywhere else to go.

Though he's hardly a Republican on most issues, as far as I can tell.  Republicans don't normally brag about their ties to Planned Parenthood.

That's exactly what I'm thinking, Dazzleman. Republicans would be turned off by Joe Lieberman if they looked at his stances on domestic issues. I'm quite suprised he gets so much support from the GOP, to be perfectly honest.

I think some of the support he'll get will be to spite the left wing of the Democratic party.  He'll also get some support from lunch pail Democrats who have long been his bread and butter.  Lamont is more the candidate for the latte liberals.

You have to remember that in a race like this, the choices are very limited.  The Republicans have not put up a viable Senate candidate in this state since 1988.
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2006, 11:12:09 PM »

Lieberman is the de-facto Republican candidate and I expect Republicans to vote for him overwhelmingly.

It's not as if we have anywhere else to go.

Though he's hardly a Republican on most issues, as far as I can tell.  Republicans don't normally brag about their ties to Planned Parenthood.

That's exactly what I'm thinking, Dazzleman. Republicans would be turned off by Joe Lieberman if they looked at his stances on domestic issues. I'm quite suprised he gets so much support from the GOP, to be perfectly honest.

I think some of the support he'll get will be to spite the left wing of the Democratic party.  He'll also get some support from lunch pail Democrats who have long been his bread and butter.  Lamont is more the candidate for the latte liberals.

You have to remember that in a race like this, the choices are very limited.  The Republicans have not put up a viable Senate candidate in this state since 1988.

What exactly is wrong with the current GOP candidate in the race?
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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2006, 11:15:50 PM »

What exactly is wrong with the current GOP candidate in the race?

He's an unqualified sacrifical lamb with gambling problems.  I shouldn't criticize him on the last part, but I'm not running for senate.

Lieberman is so beloved by the Republicans because he is most vocal and visible about his pro-Bush positions, and the media pays the most attention to his stances on those issues (mainly Iraq although there are others).  Similar to the love affair the left had with John McCain for a long time, although McCain moved right recently in pursuit of the 2008 nomination.  Lieberman never swayed and paid the price.
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2006, 11:20:56 PM »
« Edited: August 09, 2006, 11:25:02 PM by dazzleman »

Lieberman is the de-facto Republican candidate and I expect Republicans to vote for him overwhelmingly.

It's not as if we have anywhere else to go.

Though he's hardly a Republican on most issues, as far as I can tell.  Republicans don't normally brag about their ties to Planned Parenthood.

That's exactly what I'm thinking, Dazzleman. Republicans would be turned off by Joe Lieberman if they looked at his stances on domestic issues. I'm quite suprised he gets so much support from the GOP, to be perfectly honest.

I think some of the support he'll get will be to spite the left wing of the Democratic party.  He'll also get some support from lunch pail Democrats who have long been his bread and butter.  Lamont is more the candidate for the latte liberals.

You have to remember that in a race like this, the choices are very limited.  The Republicans have not put up a viable Senate candidate in this state since 1988.

What exactly is wrong with the current GOP candidate in the race?

He supposedly has huge gambling debts, and has gambled at casinos under a false name in order to avoid detection.

He is also an unknown who is a former state rep, or something like that.  He really doesn't seem to have the qualifications.  Then again, neither does Lamont, but I certainly wouldn't consider voting for him.

I think the fact that the hated left wing of the Democratic party went after Lieberman has a lot to do with why Republicans like him now.  You can often judge people as much by their enemies as their friends.
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2006, 07:08:26 AM »



Other:  It will be a GOP victory in the sense that if/when Joe wins with the backing of Democrats, Independents, and Republicans, MoveOn.org and the isolationist left will lose some of their steam.  Plus, a now "independent" (though he says "independent democrat") Joe in Congress who has been snubbed by his own party will be less likely to follow the party line 90% as he has in the past.
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2006, 07:27:23 AM »
« Edited: August 10, 2006, 07:38:51 AM by NewFederalist »

If Lieberman runs for senate as an independent the move will set up a three-way race this fall...

I am astonished at you, David S! There are at least 6 candidates on the November ballot not just 3. No Libertarian that I am aware of but at least one other independent plus a Green and a nominee from the Concerned Citizens Party.
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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2006, 07:29:40 AM »

No, the Republican has no chance to win.
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