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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2006, 04:33:22 PM »
Clwyd South: Lab 45% Con 26% Lib Dem 16% Plaid 9% UKIP 2% Others 2% (Notional Labour win)
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« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2006, 04:33:45 PM »
Quote from: Rural Radical on August 15, 2006, 04:03:08 PM
Can we look at Clwyd South (I wish they would drop the old county names) and call it Llangollen.

Calling Clwyd South, Clwyd South really makes no sense at all; it's not as though the area has anything to do with the river Clwyd or the Clwydian Range...

Llangollen might do for a name (certainly better than Clwyd South), although I like the sound of Llangollen & Brymbo for some reason...
O/c they could always just call it Dee Valley.
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« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2006, 07:00:44 AM »
Maps (like the one we've had of Dwyfor Meirionydd) of Clwyd South and Clwyd West?
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« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2006, 07:19:59 AM »
That was Meirionnydd Nant Conwy, not Dwyfor Meirionnydd Tongue

Anyways:





Brymbo isn't marked on the map, but it's the area NW of Wrexham.
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« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2006, 07:24:13 AM »
That one ward out of Montgomery gets shifted out IIRC?
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« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2006, 07:31:56 AM »
Quote from: SoFA Supa Hasi on August 17, 2006, 07:24:13 AM
That one ward out of Montgomery gets shifted out IIRC?

Yeah, but only about three people live there Wink

O/c I don't think that, historically, it is in Montgomery. It's in Powys though. Clwyd South actually has a bit of Meirionnydd in it, btw.
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« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2006, 07:33:38 AM »
Yep, the easternmost (pre-74) district of Meironydd has been in Clwyd ever since.
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« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2006, 07:39:45 AM »
Quote from: SoFA Supa Hasi on August 17, 2006, 07:33:38 AM
Yep, the easternmost (pre-74) district of Meironydd has been in Clwyd ever since.

Well not quite; Clywd was abolished in 1995. It's currently in (gags) Denbighshire...

It's strange that Wales has both the best ward boundaries in the U.K (by law they have to be based around communities and communities are not supposed to be broken up; you can contrast to some of the ghastly wards seen in England...) and some of the very worst local authority boundaries...
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« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2006, 07:47:42 AM »
Quote from: Al Widdershins on August 17, 2006, 07:39:45 AM
Quote from: SoFA Supa Hasi on August 17, 2006, 07:33:38 AM
Yep, the easternmost (pre-74) district of Meironydd has been in Clwyd ever since.

Well not quite; Clywd was abolished in 1995. It's currently in (gags) Denbighshire...
The notional county of Clwyd for redistricting purposes, though. Tongue
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« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2006, 07:51:54 AM »
Quote from: SoFA Supa Hasi on August 17, 2006, 07:47:42 AM
Quote from: Al Widdershins on August 17, 2006, 07:39:45 AM
Quote from: SoFA Supa Hasi on August 17, 2006, 07:33:38 AM
Yep, the easternmost (pre-74) district of Meironydd has been in Clwyd ever since.

Well not quite; Clywd was abolished in 1995. It's currently in (gags) Denbighshire...
The notional county of Clwyd for redistricting purposes, though. Tongue


Heh; true. Here's a question for you... in the '04 locals, one Labour candidate in what will be the Arfon constituency ran unopposed. Guess which part of the constituency his ward his in.
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« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2006, 07:55:01 AM »
Quote from: Al Widdershins on August 17, 2006, 07:51:54 AM
Quote from: SoFA Supa Hasi on August 17, 2006, 07:47:42 AM
Quote from: Al Widdershins on August 17, 2006, 07:39:45 AM
Quote from: SoFA Supa Hasi on August 17, 2006, 07:33:38 AM
Yep, the easternmost (pre-74) district of Meironydd has been in Clwyd ever since.

Well not quite; Clywd was abolished in 1995. It's currently in (gags) Denbighshire...
The notional county of Clwyd for redistricting purposes, though. Tongue


Heh; true. Here's a question for you... in the '04 locals, one Labour candidate in what will be the Arfon constituency ran unopposed. Guess which part of the constituency his ward his in.
Bethesda?
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« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2006, 08:04:05 AM »
No; a tiny rural ward just east of Caernarfon:



Voting patterns in North Wales can be a little strange at times...
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« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2006, 08:07:17 AM »
Yeah, at first I was going to say "one of those Lleyn wards I proposed to shift into the constituency", but then I noticed these wouldn't qualify.
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