UN Vote Backs Lebanon Cease-Fire

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4785001.stm

Will Hezbollah continue to lob rockets into Israel anyway?  Discuss.

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"I believe it is peace in our time." - Neville Chamberlain 1938

[Joe Republic]

Will Hezbollah continue to lob rockets into Israel anyway?  Discuss.

Apparently they won't.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4787179.stm

Yes, the UN apparently does still have some clout.

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The won't, for now, however they will continue to re-arm and re-entrench for future attacks on Israel.

[Giant Saguaro]

Sure, just a matter of time.

My solution is too simplistic, I know, but if the real problem here is that there is no official Palestinian state (which fuels the fire of Hezbollah, for instance), then since the other Arab states are so quick to give arms and explosives over I think it would be nice if they could instead think about giving over land for an official Arab Palestinian state. But good luck.

I think they'd rather have strife and war, though, which has been going on forever. And until both sides want peace, forget it. One side can't just want peace and it be so. The UN's ridiculous bandaid-over-a-bullet-wound cease-fires are jokes and may just have failed more times in this conflict than the fighting has.

[nini2287]

The won't, for now, however they will continue to re-arm and re-entrench for future attacks on Israel.

I agree.  This is a great chance for Israel, the US and (I wish) Europe and the UN to wipe out Hezbollah and the regimes in Iran and Syria.  It's too bad the Europe and the UN are acting like such pansies.

[© tweed]

This is a great chance for Israel, the US and (I wish) Europe and the UN to wipe out Hezbollah and the regimes in Iran and Syria. 

Yeah.  It'd be so easy too!

[nini2287]

This is a great chance for Israel, the US and (I wish) Europe and the UN to wipe out Hezbollah and the regimes in Iran and Syria. 

Yeah.  It'd be so easy too!

Easier now than 5 years from now with a rearmed Hezbollah and a nuclear Iran.

[© tweed]

This is a great chance for Israel, the US and (I wish) Europe and the UN to wipe out Hezbollah and the regimes in Iran and Syria. 

Yeah.  It'd be so easy too!

Easier now than 5 years from now with a rearmed Hezbollah and a nuclear Iran.

It's impossible to do without starting world war 3.

And Iran's nuclear program is possibly all hype.

[nini2287]

This is a great chance for Israel, the US and (I wish) Europe and the UN to wipe out Hezbollah and the regimes in Iran and Syria. 

Yeah.  It'd be so easy too!

Easier now than 5 years from now with a rearmed Hezbollah and a nuclear Iran.

It's impossible to do without starting world war 3.

And Iran's nuclear program is possibly all hype.

That might have to happen but I'd rather fight the war there than here.  (And if it does come down to WW3, I would probably enlist).

I hope you're right about Iran's nuclear program, but I don't want to find out the hard way.

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We are already in World War 3 so avoiding it is over. And Iran already has a nuclear program, they just haven't detonated a nuke, yet.

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We are already in World War 3 so avoiding it is over. And Iran already has a nuclear program, they just haven't detonated a nuke, yet.

They have a nuclear program, certainly, but all it's currently doing is providing electrical power.  They obviously don't have nuclear weapons.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Iran has been found to be experimenting with an isotope which is used in only two things: deep space exploration and nuclear weapons. Iran doesn't have a deep space exploration program.

Still, the US is largely powerless to do much about it, militarily. Have to go with a carrot and stick approch.

[Rob]

World War III? Nah, I think we're all going to have to wait for Jebus a bit longer.

Do any of you actually think that Iran would declare war on Israel in the unlikely event that it develops nuclear weapons?

[NewFederalist]

No. They wouldn't bother to declare war.

[Rob]

So Iran would launch a nuclear attack on Israel, out of the blue, thereby ensuring its own destruction from retaliatory Israeli and US strikes.

Makes sense, I guess.

[NewFederalist]

It is the Middle East, after all.

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So Iran would launch a nuclear attack on Israel, out of the blue, thereby ensuring its own destruction from retaliatory Israeli and US strikes.

Makes sense, I guess.

Yep, I have no doubts in my mind that upon completion of a nuclear weapon and a capable delivery system Iran would launch a nuclear weapon, regardless of the consequences. Remember, the goal of the clerics in Iran is to bring about the coming of the 13th Imam.

[Rob]

Ahmadinejad's belligerent rhetoric is very useful to the clerics as Iran makes its bid for regional leadership, but will they follow through on it? The clerics seek the annihilation of Israel, but are they eager for mutual annihilation? They are fanatics, but they haven't parted ways with reality.

Iran funds Hezbollah and its ilk to fight proxy wars against Israel, but actual war? Nuclear war, no less? No. If they develop a nuclear arsenal (big if), its value will be primarily psychological- as a deterrent to US invasion, and a counterbalance to the Israeli array.

It's not the best scenario, of course, but we won't be on the brink of Armageddon should Iran get nukes.

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So without any hindsight would you have viewed Hitlers rearmament and military build up, plus supporting proxy wars in other nations (Spain & Greece) as simply rhetoric or a true threat?

[Rob]

A true threat, because he had already followed through on much of his rhetoric (he reoccupied the Ruhr, annexed the Sudetenland, absorbed Austria in the Anschluss).

Ahmadinejad is all talk.

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Ahmadinejad is all talk.

We hope.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Ahmadinejad has no real power anyway, he's just a loon spouting nonsense.

The main reason Iran wouldn't nuke Israel (and if they ever tried there'd likely be a coup by moderates who don't want to be destroyed), is it'd devestate the Palestinean territories too. If all of Israel's infrastructure was wiped out, even if the nation was dissolved, it wouldn't do the Palestineans any good, their new "country" would mostly be a bunch of barren waste and they'd lose basic utilities.

[Rob]

Anyone else catch Ahmadinejad's interview with Mike Wallace?