Fleming & Associates: Chafee(R) regains lead on Whitehouse(D)

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

New Poll: Rhode Island Senator by Survey USA on 2006-08-21

Summary: D: 42%, R: 43%, U: 15%

Poll Source UR:Full Poll Details

Mmmm: That Rasmussen poll seems incorrect to me.

[Flying Dog]

Its more like a statistical dead heat.

[DownWithTheLeft]

New Poll: Rhode Island Senator by Survey USA on 2006-08-21

Summary: D: 42%, R: 43%, U: 15%

Poll Source UR:Full Poll Details

Mmmm: That Rasmussen poll seems incorrect to me.

Seriously, I think you have something wrong, you just don't get how polls aren't wrong or right and that you rely too heavily on them.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I think that Rasmussen has been all over the place with polls and this proves my point. I don't think he is wrong but he shouldn't be relied on all the time  polling like: NV 7 point lead for Ensign, FL 5 point lead for Crist, need I say anymore.

[Sam Spade]

This is not SUSA, this is the Rhode Island polling firm of Fleming & Associates (or so says the article)

[Eraserhead]

Some lead.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It is a survey usa poll it is a WPRI TV poll and they are affiliated with Survey USA.

[ATFFL]

It is a survey usa poll it is a WPRI TV poll and they are affiliated with Survey USA.

From the article you linked:

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Also, WPRI is not listed on Survey USA's client page.

Not Survey USA.  Survey USA does not work with WPRI.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

I fail to understand why Democrats are so intent on punishing the moderates and leaving the whackos alone.

[Flying Dog]

I fail to understand why Democrats are so intent on punishing the moderates and leaving the whackos alone.

same dilema for you republicans.

[Joe Republic]

I fail to understand why Democrats are so intent on punishing the moderates and leaving the whackos alone.

I fail to understand what that sentence has to do with this topic, unless you were making an ironic statement about the moderate Chafee being 'punished' in favor of the 'whacko' Laffey.  And even that would be only semi-relevant to this particular poll.

[Downwinder]

Dems have a Senate to take back, and Chafee is in the way.  Sorry, Chafee! 

And perhaps you forgot about the agressive, well-funded primary challenge that Chafee is also facing from the right of his own party.  Dems haven't put Laffey up to running.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

I fail to understand why Democrats are so intent on punishing the moderates and leaving the whackos alone.

I fail to understand what that sentence has to do with this topic, unless you were making an ironic statement about the moderate Chafee being 'punished' in favor of the 'whacko' Laffey.  And even that would be only semi-relevant to this particular poll.

Huh?  I'm referring to the fact that the Dems are all excited about knocking out Lincoln Chafee and equally excited about the potential for Laffey to win in the primary.  On the other hand, most Republicans see the defeat of Joe Lieberman as a tragedy and are working to keep him in the Senate.  For the most part, we honor moderate Democrats, while Democrats seem to be only hungry for numbers. Its just ironic, that's all.

[Rob]

On the other hand, most Republicans see the defeat of Joe Lieberman as a tragedy and are working to keep him in the Senate.

lol! They see an opportunity, as your party's nominee pointed out with some rancor on Hardball.

For the most part, we honor moderate Democrats, while Democrats seem to be only hungry for numbers.

Bull. If Ben Nelson suddenly became vulnerable, the Repubs wouldn't "honor" him- they'd attack him and pour money into his opponent's campaign. That's politics.

[Joe Republic]

Huh?  I'm referring to the fact that the Dems are all excited about knocking out Lincoln Chafee and equally excited about the potential for Laffey to win in the primary.  On the other hand, most Republicans see the defeat of Joe Lieberman as a tragedy and are working to keep him in the Senate.  For the most part, we honor moderate Democrats, while Democrats seem to be only hungry for numbers. Its just ironic, that's all.

Ah, I see what you're saying now.  And you're right, they do care more about numbers, but then I can't say I'm too surprised when they are only a handful of seats away from a Senate majority.  It's sad, I agree, but that's just how it is.

However, let's imagine a hypothetical situation where Ben Nelson faced a highly contentious primary battle against somebody who was far too liberal to win in Nebraska.  Given that this person's victory would mean certain success for the deeply conservative Republican, Pete Ricketts, would you still be happy to support the moderate Nelson, or would you hope that the liberal won the primary and Ricketts would win the general?


Edit:  Damn, Rob just made that same point.  Still, the question stands.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

On the other hand, most Republicans see the defeat of Joe Lieberman as a tragedy and are working to keep him in the Senate.

lol! They see an opportunity, as your party's nominee pointed out with some rancor on Hardball.

For the most part, we honor moderate Democrats, while Democrats seem to be only hungry for numbers.

Bull. If Ben Nelson suddenly became vulnerable, the Repubs wouldn't "honor" him- they'd attack him and pour money into his opponent's campaign. That's politics.

The listed Republican candidate on the ballot is a dipsh**t who needs to be pulled off the ballot.  The Connecticut Senate race goes beyond partisanship.  Hell, I feel more passionately about Joe Lieberman keeping his seat than I do about almost any other race in the country.

I don't know any Republicans that are excited or frothing at the mouth about beating Ben Nelson... and I'd imagine that there are plenty of Republican activists that will cross over and vote for Ben this year.  In my neck of the woods, Lincoln Davis, John Tanner, and Gene Taylor have gone without serious challenges for years.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

You keep saying its not a Survey usa pol, where is the tab for Fleming there is no tab for Fleming Associates. And someone put in Survey USA for Carcieri and they put Survey USA and you said nothing about that. Where is the tab for Fleming, there is none.

[ATFFL]

If you want a tab for Fleming to be added, contact Dave.  The poll database is not for every poll.  Internal polls, no matter who ran them, should never be added to the database, for instance.  New pollsters may not have a tab available.  Pollsters who run one poll a year are not tabbed.

As for the Carcieri portion, I am not the moderator of the Gubernatorial boards.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

This isn't an internal poll.

[ATFFL]

I never said it was.  That is an example of one of the types of polls we do not want in the database.  Further examples are then given.

[Gustaf]

What is with the kind of people we get here!?

Argh...

[Downwinder]

Back to Chafee....

If there was absolutely ZERO chance of the democrats winning the election, then I would probably support Chafee.  If it looked like the Democrats were going to have a blow-out, and pick up ten-twelve seats, than I would support Chafee.  But as of right now, the numbers of possible pick-ups are razor thin, and the Democrats need a Senate Majority to put a check back on the Executive Branch, and to retain SOME semblance of a party with any hope left.

You're right.  It is a numbers game with Chafee, because I don't think he's a bad senator at all.  It's too bad.  But I'm still rooting for Whitehouse.

[Smash255]

Back to Chafee....

If there was absolutely ZERO chance of the democrats winning the election, then I would probably support Chafee.  If it looked like the Democrats were going to have a blow-out, and pick up ten-twelve seats, than I would support Chafee.  But as of right now, the numbers of possible pick-ups are razor thin, and the Democrats need a Senate Majority to put a check back on the Executive Branch, and to retain SOME semblance of a party with any hope left.

You're right.  It is a numbers game with Chafee, because I don't think he's a bad senator at all.  It's too bad.  But I'm still rooting for Whitehouse.

Very well said.  I really do like Chafee as well, and I think he is an excellent Senator.  However with several pickups likely a majority is in reach (though more likely for 08 than 06).  The race could possibly wind up being the difference between who is the Senate Leader, and who holds the important Chairmanship positions.  This race for the Dems has little to do with ousting Chafee or ousting a moderate, it has everything to do about picking up a seat that could help gives us a majorirty.

[Eraserhead]

Back to Chafee....

If there was absolutely ZERO chance of the democrats winning the election, then I would probably support Chafee.  If it looked like the Democrats were going to have a blow-out, and pick up ten-twelve seats, than I would support Chafee.  But as of right now, the numbers of possible pick-ups are razor thin, and the Democrats need a Senate Majority to put a check back on the Executive Branch, and to retain SOME semblance of a party with any hope left.

You're right.  It is a numbers game with Chafee, because I don't think he's a bad senator at all.  It's too bad.  But I'm still rooting for Whitehouse.

Very well said.  I really do like Chafee as well, and I think he is an excellent Senator.  However with several pickups likely a majority is in reach (though more likely for 08 than 06).  The race could possibly wind up being the difference between who is the Senate Leader, and who holds the important Chairmanship positions.  This race for the Dems has little to do with ousting Chafee or ousting a moderate, it has everything to do about picking up a seat that could help gives us a majorirty.

I agree with both of you. Chaffee has been a good senator but I think a Sentor Whitehouse could be even better so I strongly support him.

[HardRCafé]

Very well said.  I really do like Chafee as well, and I think he is an excellent Senator.

Democrats not only don't care about excellence but also can't recognize it in the first place.