How anti death are you?

[°Leprechaun]

OK, you can answer anyway you like but here is my suggestion.

If you are basically against capital punishment give yourself 33 points
if you are against the war in Iraq give yourself 33 points
and (to make it add up to 100) 34 points for being anti legalized abortions
(allowing for reasonable exceptions such as the life of the mother etc etc)

option 3 for me

[MODU]

Do you mean "pro-legalized abortions?"

[DownWithTheLeft]

OK, you can answer anyway you like but here is my suggestion.

If you are basically against capital punishment give yourself 33 points
if you are against the war in Iraq give yourself 33 points
and (to make it add up to 100) 34 points for being anti legalized abortions
(allowing for reasonable exceptions such as the life of the mother etc etc)

option 3 for me

This is the stupidest poll.  I am 100% pro-life, which pertains to abortion, but not 100% anti-death b/c I support the death penalty.  And the war in Iraq is a defense issue, not a life or death one.

[MODU]

Do you mean "pro-legalized abortions?"

No, those who want to make abortion illegal call themselves pro life..
I am using the term anti death which is exactly the same as pro life
because pro life implies only the abortion issue (as does pro choice, unfortunately).

Ok, that makes sense.  I must have read the line incorrectly the first time.

That puts me at 34% then, since I am pro-capital punishment, pro-Iraq war, and anti-legalized abortions (not including abortions for the life of the mother).

[Dr. Cynic]

I'm anti-Death Penalty (With the exceptions of war crimes, etc...) anti-Iraq War, and Pro-Choice. It added up to about 65.

[minionofmidas]

34 points for being anti legalized abortions
(allowing for reasonable exceptions such as the life of the mother etc etc)

I'm anti legalized abortions past the first trimester except for said reasonable exceptions. Do I get partial points on that part of the question?

[DownWithTheLeft]

OK, you can answer anyway you like but here is my suggestion.

If you are basically against capital punishment give yourself 33 points
if you are against the war in Iraq give yourself 33 points
and (to make it add up to 100) 34 points for being anti legalized abortions
(allowing for reasonable exceptions such as the life of the mother etc etc)

option 3 for me

This is the stupidest poll.  I am 100% pro-life, which pertains to abortion, but not 100% anti-death b/c I support the death penalty.  And the war in Iraq is a defense issue, not a life or death one.

Are you saying that the many thousands who have died are not 'an issue'.
Do you realize how utterly ridiculous that is?
If a pre-emptive attack is ok in your book, then I guess you see nothing wrong with what happened at Pearl Harbor.

If you are so anti-death, you won't support abortion under any circumstance.  There is also quite a differnce in death in defense of freedom such as wars, and the meaningless death of abortion.

This poll gives me a 34, but I am 100% pro-life or anti-death

[Alcon]

I'm pro-death, because without it, the world would become overpopulated and people would end up dying horrible deaths.

[minionofmidas]

Okay, I'll give myself 17 points on question 3. That makes 83 in total.

[minionofmidas]

You are not allowed to call yourself a Christian unless you are a total pacifist. Jesus was.

Yes you are. You are allowed to call yourself just about anything without base. It's called "Freedom of Speech".

[DownWithTheLeft]

You are not allowed to call yourself a Christian unless you are a total pacifist. Jesus was.

That is so stupid.  I am a die-hard Christian, not being a Christian is support abortion if the mother's life is at stake, that's un-Christian.  Jesus said don't kill, Jesus didn't say don't defend yourself.  In fact, the bible says the world will end in a "war" between good and evil.  It doesn't have an abortion if the mother's life is at stake.

[Citizen James]

OK, you can answer anyway you like but here is my suggestion.

If you are basically against capital punishment give yourself 33 points
if you are against the war in Iraq give yourself 33 points
and (to make it add up to 100) 34 points for being anti legalized abortions
(allowing for reasonable exceptions such as the life of the mother etc etc)

option 3 for me

This is the stupidest poll.  I am 100% pro-life, which pertains to abortion, but not 100% anti-death b/c I support the death penalty.  And the war in Iraq is a defense issue, not a life or death one.

What about pre-natal care and children's healthcare.  Do they deserve to suffer, be born premature/stillborn or with birth defects, and lack simple preventitive care (or catastrophic care should they have a medical emergency), because they commited the sin of being born to poor parents?

Or are you really pro-wedge issue, and couldn't care less about young children (much less adults), and whether they live or die.

There are a few conservatives who are honestly  pro-life - the whole 9 yards.  They believe not only in punishment of those they hate (and are not  fixated on hate over thier reverence for life), but in securing life for all, helping the poor, and if not opposing war having some sort of concept of criteria for a 'just war' in which they consider it a nessisary evil in seeking to save more lives than are lost in the conflict.

But you, you're very screenname shows you as one who is fixated on opposition and hostility, rather than any constructive ideology.

Perhaps you will grow out of it and become an outstanding conservative someday.  Or perhaps you will remain a shallow parody of conservatism like the shrill charlitans who get so much media attention like Coulter or O'Reiley.  It's you're choice really.

[Alcon]

You are not allowed to call yourself a Christian unless you are a total pacifist. Jesus was.

Bull.  Allowed by whom?

[DownWithTheLeft]

OK, you can answer anyway you like but here is my suggestion.

If you are basically against capital punishment give yourself 33 points
if you are against the war in Iraq give yourself 33 points
and (to make it add up to 100) 34 points for being anti legalized abortions
(allowing for reasonable exceptions such as the life of the mother etc etc)

option 3 for me

This is the stupidest poll.  I am 100% pro-life, which pertains to abortion, but not 100% anti-death b/c I support the death penalty.  And the war in Iraq is a defense issue, not a life or death one.

What about pre-natal care and children's healthcare.  Do they deserve to suffer, be born premature/stillborn or with birth defects, and lack simple preventitive care (or catastrophic care should they have a medical emergency), because they commited the sin of being born to poor parents?

Or are you really pro-wedge issue, and couldn't care less about young children (much less adults), and whether they live or die.

There are a few conservatives who are honestly  pro-life - the whole 9 yards.  They believe not only in punishment of those they hate (and are not  fixated on hate over thier reverence for life), but in securing life for all, helping the poor, and if not opposing war having some sort of concept of criteria for a 'just war' in which they consider it a nessisary evil in seeking to save more lives than are lost in the conflict.

But you, you're very screenname shows you as one who is fixated on opposition and hostility, rather than any constructive ideology.

Perhaps you will grow out of it and become an outstanding conservative someday.  Or perhaps you will remain a shallow parody of conservatism like the shrill charlitans who get so much media attention like Coulter or O'Reiley.  It's you're choice really.

My major concern w/this is still the War in Iraq is not a pro-life issue.  My screenname implies that I feel the only way for things to get done in Washington is if the Republicans have enough votes to stop any filibusters.  Right now the Supreme Court has 4 votes locked up that will vote for upholding the SD abortion ban when it comes up (Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, Alito) and 4 votes against (Souter, Breyer, Ginsberg, and Stevens).  Kennedy is a swing vote, if Stevens leaves he needs to replaced w/a staunch conservative.

[nclib]

66 - anti-capital punishment, anti-Iraq war, pro-legalized abortions

[J. J.]

"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

MAHAMAHAHAHA!

[DownWithTheLeft]

Here's another problem, liberals get higher pro-life scores than conservatives, not even a liberal will tell you that is the way it should turn out

[Ebowed]

I am a die-hard Christian, not being a Christian is support abortion if the mother's life is at stake, that's un-Christian.  Jesus said don't kill, Jesus didn't say don't defend yourself.  In fact, the bible says the world will end in a "war" between good and evil.  It doesn't have an abortion if the mother's life is at stake.

A woman who will die if the pregnancy continues is essentially enacting her right to self-defense if she chooses to have an abortion.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I am a die-hard Christian, not being a Christian is support abortion if the mother's life is at stake, that's un-Christian.  Jesus said don't kill, Jesus didn't say don't defend yourself.  In fact, the bible says the world will end in a "war" between good and evil.  It doesn't have an abortion if the mother's life is at stake.

A woman who will die if the pregnancy continues is essentially enacting her right to self-defense if she chooses to have an abortion.

The church teaching of to save the child.  I'm not saying this is a postition that is perfectly valid in supporting, I'm just saying it makes you not truly pro-life.

[Nym90]

I oppose the war in Iraq, though I don't oppose the overall goal, just the method and the cost.

I support capital punishment in certain cases, but feel that it should be used less overall than it currently is.

I support abortion being legal up to a point, though I strongly support measures to reduce its use by attacking the root causes like poverty and lack of education. I would also support preventitive measures like mandatory counseling before having one.

[dazzleman]

OK, you can answer anyway you like but here is my suggestion.

If you are basically against capital punishment give yourself 33 points
if you are against the war in Iraq give yourself 33 points
and (to make it add up to 100) 34 points for being anti legalized abortions
(allowing for reasonable exceptions such as the life of the mother etc etc)

option 3 for me

This is the stupidest poll.  I am 100% pro-life, which pertains to abortion, but not 100% anti-death b/c I support the death penalty.  And the war in Iraq is a defense issue, not a life or death one.

Are you saying that the many thousands who have died are not 'an issue'.
Do you realize how utterly ridiculous that is?
If a pre-emptive attack is ok in your book, then I guess you see nothing wrong with what happened at Pearl Harbor.

It depends on the reason for the pre-emptive attack.

Japan attacked us at Pearl Harbor because they wanted to stop us from potentially interfering with their plans to take over and exploit all of east Asia.

The US had no such reasons for attacking Iraq.

It's disturbing that you would equate the two.

[Democratic Hawk]

Well, I'm anti-capital punishment and I'm anti-abotion (except for maternal life, rape and incest) so that gives me a score of 67

Dave

[Citizen James]

Here's another problem, liberals get higher pro-life scores than conservatives, not even a liberal will tell you that is the way it should turn out

Why not?

If life is so precious, why  is governmental help with pre and post-natal care frowned upon by some (stereotyped as "right" or "Conservative" on the linear model from the 18th century French parlament) as some sort of 'socialism' (or 'cooties' or whatever slur is popular now).  Is worship of mammon more important than the livelyhood of a young child who's poverty is no fault of their own.

If you want a stereotype, how about this one:

age <0 Conservatives pro-life, Liberals pro-death.

0 < age < age at which an individual is termanally ill and/or brain dead:  Conservatives pro-death, Liberals pro-life.

After becoming termanally ill (if of sound mind and body) and/or brain dead: Conservatives pro-life, Liberals pro-death.

Does that work for anyone?

[MODU]

age <0 Conservatives pro-life, Liberals pro-death.

0 < age < age at which an individual is termanally ill and/or brain dead:  Conservatives pro-death, Liberals pro-life.

After becoming termanally ill (if of sound mind and body) and/or brain dead: Conservatives pro-life, Liberals pro-death.

Does that work for anyone?

I don't think anyone is "pro-death" in that category.

[MODU]

The point is Jesus was a total pacifist in the sense that he did nothing to stop his crucifixion.

*dies laughin*