how would the following have voted in 2004, part 2

[WalterMitty]

warren harding
calvin coolidge
herbert hoover
john nance garner
henry wallace
harry truman
tom dewey
dwight eisenhower
richard nixon

[So the Heroes Fall]

warren harding - Bush
calvin coolidge - Bush
herbert hoover - Kerry
john nance garner - Bush
henry wallace - Kerry
harry truman - Kerry
tom dewey - Kerry
dwight eisenhower - Kerry
richard nixon - Bush

[Rob]

warren harding: Bush; the dullard votes for the candidate with the (R) next to his name

calvin coolidge: Badnarik; disgusted with the growth of the federal government under W, yet unwilling to support a Democrat, he casts a protest vote for the Libertarian

herbert hoover: Bush; he likes his big-government, corporate welfare sympathies

john nance garner: Bush; as a right-wing Texan, he loves Bush's aggressive foreign policy and pro-corporate, petro-friendly domestic policy

henry wallace: Nader; he was big on "voting your hopes, not your fears"

harry truman: Kerry; although a bit right-leaning for his liking, he's the lesser of two evils

tom dewey: Kerry; the centrist Northeasterner despises everything about the swaggering Texan

dwight eisenhower: Kerry; the GOP is simply too extremist for a "RINO" like Ike

richard nixon: Kerry; the Democratic Party has moved far enough to the right that Nixon wouldn't find himself too out of place in it, and he disdains Bush's "cowboy" pose on the international stage

[DownWithTheLeft]

Harding: Bush
Coolidge: Impressed w/Bush's foreign policy, votes for him
Garner: Definetly Bush
Wallace: Kerry
Truman: Bush too far to the right, Kerry to the left, write-in for GHWB
Dewey: Nader
Eisenhower: Realizes Kerry can't fight terror, definetly Bush
Nixon: Badnarik

[Secretary Polnut]

Harding - Bush
Coolidge - Probably would've stayed home
Garner - Bush
Wallace - Kerry
Truman - Kerry
Dewey - Nader
Eisenhower - Kerry
Nixon - Bush (admires his use of executive power)

[Sibboleth]

Truman: Bush too far to the right, Kerry to the left, write-in for GHWB

Kerry too far left for Truman? Hah!

[??????????]

Truman: Bush too far to the right, Kerry to the left, write-in for GHWB

Kerry too far left for Truman? Hah!

Do you really think the modern Democratic party would run Truman? Seriously.

[Sibboleth]

Truman: Bush too far to the right, Kerry to the left, write-in for GHWB

Kerry too far left for Truman? Hah!

Do you really think the modern Democratic party would run Truman? Seriously.

No. But certainly not because he was too right wing.

[WalterMitty]

Truman: Bush too far to the right, Kerry to the left, write-in for GHWB

Kerry too far left for Truman? Hah!

Do you really think the modern Democratic party would run Truman? Seriously.

No. But certainly not because he was too right wing.

correct.

they wouldnt run him because he wasnt a great politician.  he wouldnt fare well in the media age of today.

[Secretary Polnut]

Yeah - Truman was a good, decent and quiet spoken mid-Western man.

[??????????]

Yeah - Truman was a good, decent and quiet spoken mid-Western man.

And he was also a foreign policy hawk. Which would not be kosher for the hippies who run the modern Democratic party. The worst thing Truman ever did O/C was to fire McArthur.

[Secretary Polnut]

lol.


Truman was definintely a hawk - but he was not a social conservative.

Anyway - Truman's decision was the right one as MacArthur's massive ego led him to undermine the President's decisions and verge on insubordination.

[??????????]

lol.


Truman was definintely a hawk - but he was not a social conservative.

Anyway - Truman's decision was the right one as MacArthur's massive ego led him to undermine the President's decisions and verge on insubordination.

I'll go back and bump the appropriate thread where we can debate this Pol.

[True Democrat]

warren harding: Bush
calvin coolidge: Bush
herbert hoover: Bush
john nance garner: Bush
henry wallace: Nader or Cobb
harry truman: Kerry
tom dewey: Kerry
dwight eisenhower: Kerry
richard nixon: Supports Bush in a political sense, but possibly Kerry personally

[Colin]

warren harding: Bush. Partisan and economically right.
calvin coolidge: Bush, though he wouldn't like the foreign policy.
herbert hoover: Bush, though he wouldn't like the foreign policy.
john nance garner: Bush
henry wallace: Kerry
harry truman: Kerry Partisan plus left-of-centre on domestic policies.
tom dewey: Kerry
dwight eisenhower: No idea. He'd be undecided possibly.
richard nixon: Bush

[Dr. Cynic]

warren harding - Harding was a simpleton who would always vote for his party, even if they disagreed with him

calvin coolidge - I don't even think Coolidge could stomach the Libertarians... He's too tough to call

herbert hoover - Probably a reluctant Bush vote, although he would have been undecided till the end

john nance garner - Would never belong in the Democratic Party... Bush

henry wallace - Wallace would have undoubtedly supported Kerry

harry truman - Truman was tough as hell, but also a partisan... He would've supported Kerry, and probably hated Bush

tom dewey - Dewey wouldn't be a Republican today... Kerry

dwight eisenhower - A tough call for me... I think he would have been wary of Bush, but probably would think Kerry too pretentious... Casts a vote for Kerry because he was a fellow soldier

richard nixon - Nixon would have voted for whoever Harry Truman wasn't... The two men seriously hated each other, which, although you expect it, doesn't really happen in politics too often... He'd still be a Republican

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

Harding: Bush
Coolidge: Bush
Hoover: Bush
Garner: Bush
Wallace: Kerry
Truman: I'm going to generate some controversy here and say Bush.
Dewey: Kerry
Eisenhower: Remember that Ike was a 1950's version of Colin Powell.  He probably would have soured on Bush, but is decidedly not a leftist.  A reluctant vote for Bush.
Nixon: Bush

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

dwight eisenhower: Kerry; the GOP is simply too extremist for a "RINO" like Ike

Ike may have been moderate, but he really wasn't quite as non-partisan as his reputation suggests.  He even filmed a TV commercial for Goldwater and said that he voted for him - not for Goldwater's sake, but for the sake of the Republican Party.  (Again, I could easily see Colin Powell walking into the voting booth and saying the same thing re: Bush)

[Nym90]

Truman voting for Bush? They are worlds apart on economics. Truman was a genuine champion of the working class regular guy. Truman wouldn't have been a big fan of Kerry of course either (he would've been for Edwards in the primary) but I can't in a million years see him voting for Bush.

I also don't see Eisenhower with his opposition to the military industrial complex going for Bush. Like Truman he wouldn't have really cared for either of the candidates, and it's certainly at least possible he might've held his nose and voted for Bush (or pulled a Chafee and wrote in someone like Bush 41).

I agree on Nixon going for Bush; despite great disagreements on many domestic policies, the two were in definite agreement on the issue of the powers of the executive branch.

[Old Europe]

Eisenhower was such a liberal hippie-communist:


"I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its stupidity."

"A preventive war, to my mind, is an impossibility. I don't believe there is such a thing, and frankly I wouldn't even listen to anyone seriously that came in and talked about such a thing."

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children."

"Secretary of War Stimson, visiting my headquarters in Germany, informed me that our government was preparing to drop an atomic bomb on Japan. I was one of those who felt that there were a number of cogent reasons to question the wisdom of such an act. ...the Secretary, upon giving me the news of the successful bomb test in New Mexico, and of the plan for using it, asked for my reaction, apparently expecting a vigorous assent.
During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of 'face'. The Secretary was deeply perturbed by my attitude..."

"I was against it on two counts. First, the Japanese were ready to surrender, and it wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing. Second, I hated to see our country be the first to use such a weapon."

"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

"Un-American activity cannot be prevented or routed out by employing un-American methods; to preserve freedom we must use the tools that freedom provides."

"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without."

And THE classic: "This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience…we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."


http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower

[MarkWarner08]

Henry Wallace. The cold war was over in 2004 and Wallace would've withdrawn our troops from Iraq.

[Old Europe]

Henry Wallace. The cold war was over in 2004 and Wallace would've withdrawn our troops from Iraq.

It's "How would the following have voted?" and not "Who would you have voted for?"

[memphis]

Truman: Bush too far to the right, Kerry to the left, write-in for GHWB

Kerry too far left for Truman? Hah!

Do you really think the modern Democratic party would run Truman? Seriously.

Nope, we learned our lesson on socialized health care with Clinton.

[Max]

warren harding - BUSH

calvin coolidge - BUSH

herbert hoover - BUSH

john nance garner - Don't know him

henry wallace - KERRY

harry truman - BUSH

tom dewey - KERRY

dwight eisenhower - BUSH

richard nixon -BUSH

[MaC]

Harding: Bush
Coolidge: Impressed w/Bush's foreign policy, votes for him
Garner: Definetly Bush
Wallace: Kerry
Truman: Bush too far to the right, Kerry to the left, write-in for GHWB
Dewey: Nader
Eisenhower: Realizes Kerry can't fight terror, definetly Bush
Nixon: Badnarik

uhm?  You're talking about the foreign interventionist, repeal the gold standard, loves big government Richard Nixon?