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RT Strategies (Various Congressional Districts)
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September 07, 2006, 07:23:19 pm »
Taken from RealClearpolitics
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/latestpolls/
Washington-8 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,051 RV Reichert (R) 46% , Burner (D) 49%
Burner +3.0%
Nevada - 3 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,018 RV Porter (R) 51% , Hafen (D) 43%
Porter +8.0%
New Mexico-1 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,010 RV Wilson (R) 48% , Madrid (D) 45%
Wilson +3.0%
Colorado - 7 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,014 RV O Donnell (R) 46% , Perlmutter (D) 48%
Perlmutter +2.0%
Colorado - 4 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 996 RV Musgrave (R) 47% , Paccione (D) 41%
Musgrave +6.0%
Iowa - 3 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 989 RV Lamberti (R) 43% , Boswell (D) 54%
Boswell +11.0%
Iowa - 1 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,014 RV Whalen (R) 41% , Braley (D) 54%
Braley +13.0%
Illinois - 8 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,006 RV McSweeney (R) 45% , Bean (D) 48%
Bean +3.0%
Illinois - 6 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,069 RV Roskam (R) 46% , Duckworth (D) 47%
Duckworth +1.0%
Kentucky - 4 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 963 RV Davis (R) 49% , Lucas (D) 46%
Davis +3.0%
Florida - 22 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,022 RV Shaw (R) 52% , Klein (D) 44%
Shaw +8.0%
North Carolina - 11 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,021 RV Taylor (R) 47% , Shuler (D) 50%
Shuler +3.0%
Virginia - 2 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,021 Drake (R) 43% , Kellam (D) 51%
Kellam +8.0%
Pennsylvania - 6 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,020 RV Gerlach (R) 45% , Murphy (D) 50%
Murphy +5.0%
Pennsylvania - 8 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,006 RV Fitzpatrick (R) 53% , Murphy (D) 45%
Fitzpatrick +8.0%
Connecticut - 4 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,011 Shays (R) 49% , Farrell (D) 42%
Shays +7.0%
Connecticut-2 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,010 RV Simmons (R) 45% , Courtney (D) 51%
Courtney +6.0%
Pennsylvania - 10 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,008 RV Sherwood (R) 43% , Carney (D) 50%
Carney +7.0%
Ohio - 6 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 982 RV Blasdel (R) 40% , Wilson (D) 56%
Wilson +16.0%
West Virginia - 1 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,003 RV Wakim (R) 42% , Mollohan (D) 52%
Mollohan +10.0%
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Re: RT Strategies (Various Congressional Districts)
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September 08, 2006, 01:40:02 am »
Here´s the link to the Constituent Dynamics poll (incl. map):
http://www.constituentdynamics.com/mw/2006/index2.html
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Re: RT Strategies (Various Congressional Districts)
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September 08, 2006, 07:01:56 am »
Who exactly are RT Strategies?
Quote from: Senator Dave 'Hawk' PPT on September 07, 2006, 07:23:19 pm
Illinois - 8 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,006 RV McSweeney (R) 45% , Bean (D) 48%
Bean +3.0%
That Bean is the Democratic Rep. most in trouble is no suprise. I don't think she'll make it.
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Kentucky - 4 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 963 RV Davis (R) 49% , Lucas (D) 46%
Davis +3.0%
As expected. This one will go down to the wire...
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North Carolina - 11 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,021 RV Taylor (R) 47% , Shuler (D) 50%
Shuler +3.0%
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Virginia - 2 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,021 Drake (R) 43% , Kellam (D) 51%
Kellam +8.0%
!
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Connecticut - 4 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,011 Shays (R) 49% , Farrell (D) 42%
Shays +7.0%
Connecticut-2 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,010 RV Simmons (R) 45% , Courtney (D) 51%
Courtney +6.0%
Interesting, very interesting...
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Pennsylvania - 10 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,008 RV Sherwood (R) 43% , Carney (D) 50%
Carney +7.0%
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West Virginia - 1 RT Strategies/CD 08/27 - 08/29 1,003 RV Wakim (R) 42% , Mollohan (D) 52%
Mollohan +10.0%
Seems about right.
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Re: RT Strategies (Various Congressional Districts)
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September 08, 2006, 07:09:05 am »
The good thing is:
Out of the 30 races polled, the Democrats are leading in 18, the Republicans in 9 and in the 3 IN districts polling is still under way.
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Re: RT Strategies (Various Congressional Districts)
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September 08, 2006, 07:15:39 am »
Quote from: Mark Warner 08 on September 08, 2006, 01:40:02 am
Here´s the link to the Constituent Dynamics poll (incl. map):
http://www.constituentdynamics.com/mw/2006/index2.html
If you click on the little white dots, you get breakdowns of the results, some of which seem quite interesting.
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'Gentlemen, a desert. A place of savage reference for the good people of Ohio. A place to fear and love. A blasted region. Something to remind us what we hewed out of. A place without malls. An Other for Ohio's Self. Cacti and scorpions and the sun bearing down. Desolation. A place for people to wander alone. To reflect. Away from everything. Gentlemen, a desert.'
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Re: RT Strategies (Various Congressional Districts)
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September 08, 2006, 07:19:38 am »
Quote from: Al ydw i on September 08, 2006, 07:01:56 am
Who exactly are RT Strategies?
There are a bipartisan public affairs opinion research and polling organisation founded by Thomas Riehle, a Democrat, and V. Lance Tarrance, Jnr, a Republican.
http://www.rtstrategies.com/
They are sponsors of the National Omnibus Poll and are partners with Charlie Cook on the Cook Political Report/RT Strategies Poll
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Re: RT Strategies (Various Congressional Districts)
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September 08, 2006, 07:29:56 am »
They also have some numbers for districts in which one or both parties don't have nominees yet...
AZ-8: D 50/R 46
MN-6: R 53/D 42
FL-13: R 56/D 38
WI-8: D 48/R 44
OH-18: D 47/R 43
NY-24: D 49/R 41
VT-AL: D 54/R 40
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'Gentlemen, a desert. A place of savage reference for the good people of Ohio. A place to fear and love. A blasted region. Something to remind us what we hewed out of. A place without malls. An Other for Ohio's Self. Cacti and scorpions and the sun bearing down. Desolation. A place for people to wander alone. To reflect. Away from everything. Gentlemen, a desert.'
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Re: RT Strategies (Various Congressional Districts)
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September 08, 2006, 07:43:45 am »
Constituent Dynamics is with the DNC.
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Re: RT Strategies (Various Congressional Districts)
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September 08, 2006, 11:53:08 am »
Quote from: nickshepDEM on September 08, 2006, 07:43:45 am
Constituent Dynamics is with the DNC.
And Wilson is
still
leading Madrid in NM-1.
INTERNALS! FINALLY! W00T!
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Quote from: Sam Spade on June 07, 2008, 10:56:40 am
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Re: RT Strategies (Various Congressional Districts)
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September 08, 2006, 12:22:06 pm »
Quote from: Al ydw i on September 08, 2006, 07:29:56 am
MN-6: R 53/D 42
Huh? Both nominees are already clear there.
If so it sounds as if this poll simply asked "Are you more likely to vote for the Republican candidate or Democratic candidate?" For that, those numbers sound right. Now if you included the names of Wetterling and Bachmann, the R numbers would hopefully drop. If 53% of the district are crazy enough to agree with a complete nut like Bachmann, well there's more evidence of why suburbs are awful evil places
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Re: RT Strategies (Various Congressional Districts)
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September 08, 2006, 12:41:53 pm »
Quote from: Red on September 08, 2006, 12:22:06 pm
Huh? Both nominees are already clear there.
If so it sounds as if this poll simply asked "Are you more likely to vote for the Republican candidate or Democratic candidate?"
Yep, it does sound like that. No names were mentioned. Of the three geographic areas the poll was broken down into, the generic Democrat had a lead in Anoka, but everywhere else is strongly Republican.
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Re: RT Strategies (Various Congressional Districts)
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September 08, 2006, 12:43:23 pm »
That's good to know, although it makes the numbers rather pointless. Since both Wetterling and Bachmann have the primaries in the bag I don't see why they didn't just do a Wetterling vs. Bachmann poll, especially since we need one.
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Re: RT Strategies (Various Congressional Districts)
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September 14, 2006, 06:21:34 am »
From
http://www.constituentdynamics.com/mw/2006/index2.html
Indiana CD-2
Chocola (R) 40% (29% strong, 11% weak) / Donnelly [D] 52% (43% strong, 9% weak) -
Dem +12%
Bush net approval -21%
Indiana CD-8
Hostettler [R] 45% (31% strong, 14% weak) / Ellsworth (D) 51% (44% strong, 7% weak) -
Dem +6%
Bush net approval -5%
Indiana CD-9
Sodrel (R) 42% (28% strong, 14% weak) / Hill (D) 54% (47% strong, 7% weak) -
Dem +12%
Bush net approval -24%
What is striking is the strength of support for Donnelly, Ellsworth and Hill compared with that for Chocola, Hostettler and Sodrel
It would seem that Bush's unpopularity is doing the GOP incumbents no favors; while the unpopularity of Republican Governor Mitch Daniels (sitting at -15% according to the latest SUSA 50 state tracking poll) might also playing its part
Nevertheless, the Democrats are running good candidates, who should be capable of winning election on their own merits
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Re: RT Strategies (Various Congressional Districts)
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September 14, 2006, 10:35:40 am »
Very nice!
I was expecting Sodrel to go down since his 2004 victory was a bit of a fluke but finally taking out Hostettler and Chocola will be nice too.
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Although these Indiana results are interesting, they lead me towards further suspicion of the quality of these polls.
My main rationale here lies within the recent Research 2000 poll released a couple of days ago in IN-09 showing Hill up by 6%. R2000, for any of you who have ever read Vorlon's comments, is a state polling firm that conducts polls similarly to M-D. This usually means steady results, as opposed to SUSA for example, which tends to jump around a lot. However, R2000 is, for all intensive purposes, a lesser quality firm than M-D; they tend to cut a lot of corners in the developement of their polls.
In the polling world, this invariably means that their numbers tend to lean Democratic in comparison to the whole. I'm not saying this is by much, but in 2004, their numbers were, on the whole, about 1-2 points too Democratic. (in 2000, when Dem turnout numbers at the end shot up dramatically, they were much closer to even. I consider that luck) And because their polling method is fairly consistent, these findings are fairly consistent as well. I'm trying to think of a race where R2000 overestimated on the Republican side and none comes to mind. It's just that consistent.
Now, I'm sure the response would be: Well, how do we know that R2000 didn't just get a bad sample for once or an overly Republican sample? This is quite correct in my opinion. That's the reason why I called it suspicion, not certainty. Only more polls can clarify this opinion.
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Quote from: Sam Spade on September 14, 2006, 12:26:01 pm
In the polling world, this invariably means that their numbers tend to lean Democratic in comparison to the whole. I'm not saying this is by much, but in 2004, their numbers were, on the whole, about 1-2 points too Democratic.
(in 2000, when Dem turnout numbers at the end shot up dramatically, they were much closer to even. I consider that luck) And because their polling method is fairly consistent, these findings are fairly consistent as well. I'm trying to think of a race where R2000 overestimated on the Republican side and none comes to mind. It's just that consistent.
So, Sam, does that mean you think Wilson is even further ahead in NM-1 then?
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Quote from: Senator WMS on September 14, 2006, 04:48:32 pm
Quote from: Sam Spade on September 14, 2006, 12:26:01 pm
In the polling world, this invariably means that their numbers tend to lean Democratic in comparison to the whole. I'm not saying this is by much, but in 2004, their numbers were, on the whole, about 1-2 points too Democratic.
(in 2000, when Dem turnout numbers at the end shot up dramatically, they were much closer to even. I consider that luck) And because their polling method is fairly consistent, these findings are fairly consistent as well. I'm trying to think of a race where R2000 overestimated on the Republican side and none comes to mind. It's just that consistent.
So, Sam, does that mean you think Wilson is even further ahead in NM-1 then?
Well, their result matches ABQ polling, which about matches Madrid internal polling. I know what the ABQ record was in 2004, so that makes me suspicious a bit, but I doubt we get any other polls out of this race to compare, so I gotta believe what I have.
How's that for a non-answer.
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Quote from: Sam Spade on September 14, 2006, 04:54:16 pm
Quote from: Senator WMS on September 14, 2006, 04:48:32 pm
Quote from: Sam Spade on September 14, 2006, 12:26:01 pm
In the polling world, this invariably means that their numbers tend to lean Democratic in comparison to the whole. I'm not saying this is by much, but in 2004, their numbers were, on the whole, about 1-2 points too Democratic.
(in 2000, when Dem turnout numbers at the end shot up dramatically, they were much closer to even. I consider that luck) And because their polling method is fairly consistent, these findings are fairly consistent as well. I'm trying to think of a race where R2000 overestimated on the Republican side and none comes to mind. It's just that consistent.
So, Sam, does that mean you think Wilson is even further ahead in NM-1 then?
Well, their result matches ABQ polling, which about matches Madrid internal polling. I know what the ABQ record was in 2004, so that makes me suspicious a bit, but I doubt we get any other polls out of this race to compare, so I gotta believe what I have.
How's that for a non-answer.
Yes, there are no top-quality polls here, sad to say
That's a good non-answer.
I would just like to remind everyone again that Wilson has led
every
poll for this race, even the Dem internal ones...that is not good news for Madrid...
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