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« on: September 11, 2006, 10:43:51 pm »
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who is more electable?  (assuming ford wins in tn)

id say harold ford would be the better presidential candidate.
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2006, 10:44:53 pm »
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Ford=Substance, Obama=Charisma

Thus Obama would probably be the better selection to win over the American populace.
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2006, 10:46:27 pm »
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and as much as i hate to say it, obama's name would hurt.

1.  it is too....ethnic
2.  too similar to osama.

that may be silly, but it is the truth.
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2006, 10:47:14 pm »
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Ford is moderate, but he has to be in TN to hav any chance of winning.
Don't know much about Obama, but I hear he's very liberal, which is probably why he won in a deep blue state IL.

Ford would be more able to bridge the gap between liberals and conservatives
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2006, 10:49:38 pm »
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and as much as i hate to say it, obama's name would hurt.

1.  it is too....ethnic
2.  too similar to osama.

that may be silly, but it is the truth.

Yet, Bush is let off the hook?
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2006, 11:03:07 pm »
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Probably Ford.  Obama is too liberal.

How about an all black ticket in 2012 or 2016?  Ford/Obama.

After generations of being the Democrats most loyal and most taken for granted constituency, it's the least the Democrats could do.
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2006, 02:40:04 pm »
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I would never vote for Ford. I'd vote for Giuliani over him.
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2006, 02:42:56 pm »
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Here's my opinion of the two:
I could vote for Ford
I would duck for cover and run if Obama was president
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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2006, 04:56:53 pm »
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Ford.  I know Id support Ford over Obama and Im a pretty big Obama fan.
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2006, 04:57:25 pm »
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and as much as i hate to say it, obama's name would hurt.

1.  it is too....ethnic
2.  too similar to osama.

that may be silly, but it is the truth.

Good point, Mitty.
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2006, 05:08:13 pm »
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Ford, though both would be excellent.
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2006, 05:47:42 pm »
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Ford.  Obama is more fluff when you take away the polished showman and compare the two men for who they are.
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2006, 05:51:47 pm »
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Ford.  Obama is more fluff when you take away the polished showman and compare the two men for who they are.
Whys Ford so good? He has no idea what its like for real people, he went to an elite private school in Washington DC where he grew up and he comes from a family which is both corrupt and dont hold other jobs but elected office. He is too conservative and anti bill of rights.
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2006, 02:10:48 am »
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Ford = Prowar = no chance in hell in the primary.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2006, 03:29:37 am »
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Ford.  Obama is more fluff when you take away the polished showman and compare the two men for who they are.
Whys Ford so good? He has no idea what its like for real people, he went to an elite private school in Washington DC where he grew up and he comes from a family which is both corrupt and dont hold other jobs but elected office. He is too conservative.
That's the only type of Democrat that Conservatives can stomach.
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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2006, 03:33:46 am »
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Obama is the MOST skilled orator I've ever seen in my lifetime.

Ford is a bit too sleazy for my liking.
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2006, 03:53:26 am »
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Both would make strong candidates…

 IF they had a term or two in the senate under their belts (though Ford's had plenty of time in the House... so would be well placed with less time in the senate, if he got there, than Obama)...

…however Obama is a great speaker and while a pretty mainstream democrat ideologically, is an expert at couching his language and framing his arguments in a way that appeals to moderate, middle of the road voters... geographically he'd need a southern or western running mate, probably a moderate governor (Ritter? Richardson?). Ford is a less gifted orator, however he would have a strong base geographically and poetically and would probably have more freedom in who his running mate was.

Overall they’d both make excellent candidates, I’d probably prefer Ford on balance but Obama would also be excellent (with the right campaign and the right running mate)… however it does rather depend on if Ford can get elected in Tennessee (still very much “up in the air”).

Though at present I could see Obama running for president at some stage in the medium term and he could be a very strong candidate… though I wouldn’t put it past the DNC to foul it up.


Whys Ford so good? He has no idea what its like for real people, he went to an elite private school in Washington DC where he grew up and he comes from a family which is both corrupt and dont hold other jobs but elected office.


Wow... sounds like a Kerry, Bush, Kennedy or a Daley to me (lol), not that any of them are any worse than most other politcos in the country... disliking Ford for being a conservative democrat is one thing, but its hard to smear him as corrupt...   
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2006, 12:05:18 pm »
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obamas middle name is hussein?

president barack hussein obama?

i dont think thatll fly.  again, maybe it is unfair, but that is the way the world turns.
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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2006, 12:45:00 pm »
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obamas middle name is hussein?

president barack hussein obama?

i dont think thatll fly.  again, maybe it is unfair, but that is the way the world turns.

That's his real middle name? Wow, that is unfortunate...at least for a politician.
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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2006, 08:15:01 pm »
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I like them both! Alot. Either would work for me. I met Ford last spring and had a chance to hear him speak..........he definately kicks.
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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2006, 12:55:48 pm »
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and as much as i hate to say it, obama's name would hurt.

1.  it is too....ethnic
2.  too similar to osama.

that may be silly, but it is the truth.

Didn't seem to hurt him in IL where he got 70% of the vote.
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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2006, 12:57:02 pm »
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Ford would do better across the country but he would never win a national democratic nomination.
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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2006, 02:04:41 pm »
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and as much as i hate to say it, obama's name would hurt.

1.  it is too....ethnic
2.  too similar to osama.

that may be silly, but it is the truth.

Didn't seem to hurt him in IL where he got 70% of the vote.

....against alan keyes.
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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2006, 02:53:02 pm »
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Obama is a champion of the stage, and holds many of the views common to the Democratic Party, especiialy on the war. Obama also has a cool "I feel your pain" story to deliver to the middle class, where as Ford has, as mentioned, no such story. Obama definetly would get the party nod first and with the right VP candidate (Obama/Gore?) could be placed in a just fine position for the election.
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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2006, 04:37:57 pm »
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Ford.  Obama is more fluff when you take away the polished showman and compare the two men for who they are.
Whys Ford so good? He has no idea what its like for real people, he went to an elite private school in Washington DC where he grew up and he comes from a family which is both corrupt and dont hold other jobs but elected office. He is too conservative and anti bill of rights.

Conan, have fun nominating Hillary Clinton or Howard Dean

Wow, just imagine if all Democrats were Conan, thinking all radical left-wingers are going to win, even one's who have committed crimes.

That would help the GOP a whole lot

Before everyone says I am the same, I do not hate moderates I hate people who bash the party, and Ford is a big critic of the president.  He is an asset to the party, not a danger like Lincoln Chafee is the Republicans.
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