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« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2004, 10:09:36 pm »
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« Reply #76 on: January 26, 2004, 10:14:53 pm »
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« Reply #77 on: January 26, 2004, 10:55:42 pm »
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Lebanon is the world's last puppet/satellite state, controlled by Syria. But which Graham said this, Lindsay or Bob? If Bob, that's big.
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« Reply #78 on: January 27, 2004, 06:37:44 am »
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Republican self-criticism?

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« Reply #79 on: January 27, 2004, 01:11:28 pm »
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Quote from: M on January 26, 2004, 10:55:42 pm
Lebanon is the world's last puppet/satellite state, controlled by Syria. But which Graham said this, Lindsay or Bob? If Bob, that's big.

There are lots of satellite states in the world other than Lebanon.
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« Reply #80 on: January 27, 2004, 03:07:42 pm »
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Depends on your definition. If you mean economically dependent, or relies on military protection, sure. But if you mean all the nation's decisions on everything are made in another capital, ie old Eastern Europe, there's just one, and that's Lebanon. Even Laos is no longer in the Vietnamese orbit.
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« Reply #81 on: January 27, 2004, 03:08:50 pm »
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« Reply #82 on: January 27, 2004, 03:18:14 pm »
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Kind of isolated. They're dependent on India, and maintain close ties with them, but I wouln't call them a puppet state. Client state, yes. But I'm talking a Slovakia- '39, Hungary '56 puppet state. That's Lebanon.
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« Reply #83 on: January 27, 2004, 03:21:29 pm »
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Kind of isolated. They're dependent on India, and maintain close ties with them, but I wouln't call them a puppet state. Client state, yes. But I'm talking a Slovakia- '39, Hungary '56 puppet state. That's Lebanon.

I suppose you don't count really small states, like say, Monaco, the Vatican or Andorra? Or these Oceanian states I thought were pretty much controlled by the US. I think some of the old Soviet states are pretty controlled, but with your hard-line definition, I agree there wouldn't be that many around.
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« Reply #84 on: January 27, 2004, 03:24:31 pm »
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Sure, Monaco's like the ultimate client state to France, or San Marino to Italy, Lichtenstein to Switz., Marshall islands to USA. But puppets is something completely different.
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« Reply #85 on: January 27, 2004, 03:26:45 pm »
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Belarus?
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« Reply #86 on: January 27, 2004, 03:30:36 pm »
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They're weird; Lukashenko is the one that want's t recreate the USSR, not Putin. He wants it on his terms, with him as leader and the capital in Minsk. The idea of Aleksandr Lukashenko with a major Pacific naval base is... scary... but ver unlikely. Putin has publicly rebuffed him.
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« Reply #87 on: January 27, 2004, 03:34:15 pm »
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They're weird; Lukashenko is the one that want's t recreate the USSR, not Putin. He wants it on his terms, with him as leader and the capital in Minsk. The idea of Aleksandr Lukashenko with a major Pacific naval base is... scary... but ver unlikely. Putin has publicly rebuffed him.

Belarus is a state where oppositional journalists are murdered. Scary place, Europe's last real dictature.
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« Reply #88 on: January 27, 2004, 03:37:51 pm »
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i love the idea of the John/John ticket
You don't mean our John, the forum troll, right?
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« Reply #89 on: January 27, 2004, 03:38:34 pm »
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He want's to run a puppet state but can't... ironic, eh?

BTW an opposition candidate at the last "election" in Belarus "vanished" a couple of months back...

They do similer stuff in the Ukraine...
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« Reply #90 on: January 27, 2004, 04:12:59 pm »
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Ukraine doesn't quite rise (sink, perhaps?) to that level, but there's nasty stuff going on there too. Still, they have a viable democratic opposition that should win next time, they almost did last time. Belarus is truly Europe's last real dictatorship. (I count Transcaucasian countries as Asiatic for these purposes.)
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« Reply #91 on: January 27, 2004, 04:18:11 pm »
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Quote from: M on January 27, 2004, 04:12:59 pm
Ukraine doesn't quite rise (sink, perhaps?) to that level, but there's nasty stuff going on there too. Still, they have a viable democratic opposition that should win next time, they almost did last time. Belarus is truly Europe's last real dictatorship. (I count Transcaucasian countries as Asiatic for these purposes.)

There is still hope for the Ukraine. The problem is that they will probably get an EU-brainwash in the process, but I guess I will have to accept that as the least bad of the outcomes.
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« Reply #92 on: January 27, 2004, 06:50:37 pm »
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i like the Kerry / Edwards ticket
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« Reply #93 on: January 27, 2004, 07:02:19 pm »
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i like the Kerry / Edwards ticket

Same here. Kerry/Edwards looks like the best case scenario. Cheesy
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« Reply #94 on: January 27, 2004, 07:21:43 pm »
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i like the Kerry / Edwards ticket

Same here. Kerry/Edwards looks like the best case scenario. Cheesy
Edwards/Kerry is better.
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« Reply #95 on: January 28, 2004, 04:14:33 am »
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Edwards/Kerry or Kerry/Edwards would give the Dems a good chance of winning Smiley
Bribe Clark and Gephardt to accept cabinet positions and it gets better.

Democrat's... don't vote for Dean!!!

BTW Re: Ukraine; a journalists headless corpse was found in the backwoods a while back...
But an alliance of liberals and communists (not every day you see that mixture) should get the bastard (Kuchma) next time...

BTW Moldova has a Democratically elected Communist government.
Which bearing in mind how poor Moldova is, is entirly understandible.
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« Reply #96 on: January 28, 2004, 04:21:37 am »
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Edwards/Kerry or Kerry/Edwards would give the Dems a good chance of winning Smiley
Bribe Clark and Gephardt to accept cabinet positions and it gets better.

Democrat's... don't vote for Dean!!!

BTW Re: Ukraine; a journalists headless corpse was found in the backwoods a while back...
But an alliance of liberals and communists (not every day you see that mixture) should get the bastard (Kuchma) next time...

BTW Moldova has a Democratically elected Communist government.
Which bearing in mind how poor Moldova is, is entirly understandible.

A lot of ex-Soviet countries have more or less communist goverments I think. But their democratic alternatives are often weak, and the right is fascist, so what are they supposed to do? Just like Russia I suppose... Sad
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« Reply #97 on: January 28, 2004, 07:04:16 am »
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Edwards/Kerry is better.

Keep that dream alive, I guess.  Dreams are cheaper than Prozac, Zoloft, etc.

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« Reply #98 on: January 28, 2004, 07:17:20 am »
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Edwards/Kerry is better.

Keep that dream alive, I guess.  Dreams are cheaper than Prozac, Zoloft, etc.

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« Reply #99 on: January 28, 2004, 09:15:51 am »
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Yes... but in Moldova they are officially Communist (ie; Marxist-Leninist), and they don't appear to have cracked down on opposition parties.
They won 50% of the vote in the last Parliamentary election (note to U.S members: in a multi-party system 50% is an extremly high % of the vote)
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