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« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2007, 01:50:52 PM »

he lost his senate bid, but I could still see him running for congress or governor somewhere down the line. It's likely that he'll get a cabinet appointment if the next president is a republican.
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« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2007, 04:36:34 PM »


Oh how we talk with hindsight, at that time Tom Kean Jr. was the favorite, he collapsed at the end and therefore ended me from every being optimistic about NJ Republicans
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« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2007, 05:18:23 PM »

Steele political career isn't over. In matter of fact I consider him onne of the few Republican winners last november as he got his name out there and he created a positive image of himself, In addition he managed to clear himself of the fall of Erlich to Martain O'Malley.     
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« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2007, 12:43:05 PM »

Steele political career isn't over. In matter of fact I consider him onne of the few Republican winners last november as he got his name out there and he created a positive image of himself, In addition he managed to clear himself of the fall of Erlich to Martain O'Malley.     

Someone who lost by a bigger margin than the polls predicted is a rather strange definition of winner.  And I'd question the "positive image" part.  In MD he'll probably be better remembered as the puppy-loving guy who lost a Senate race despite favorable press coverage by standing with Bush on most issues, as much as he tried to avoid saying so.

The Ehrlich/O'Malley race was closer, so I think Ehrlich has the better potential for a political comeback.  But I wouldn't get my hopes up too high about them or any Republican winning a major statewide race in the near future.
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« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2007, 12:51:55 PM »

Steele political career isn't over. In matter of fact I consider him onne of the few Republican winners last november as he got his name out there and he created a positive image of himself, In addition he managed to clear himself of the fall of Erlich to Martain O'Malley.     

Someone who lost by a bigger margin than the polls predicted is a rather strange definition of winner.  And I'd question the "positive image" part.  In MD he'll probably be better remembered as the puppy-loving guy who lost a Senate race despite favorable press coverage by standing with Bush on most issues, as much as he tried to avoid saying so.


Not to mention likening embryonic stem-cell research with Nazi experimentation. That surely makes Steele perfect fodder for the bat-sh**t crazy crowd I'd say

As far pre-election polling goes, he was about as much a winner last fall as Rick Santorum

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« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2007, 01:17:42 PM »

Steele political career isn't over. In matter of fact I consider him onne of the few Republican winners last november as he got his name out there and he created a positive image of himself, In addition he managed to clear himself of the fall of Erlich to Martain O'Malley.     

Someone who lost by a bigger margin than the polls predicted is a rather strange definition of winner.  And I'd question the "positive image" part.  In MD he'll probably be better remembered as the puppy-loving guy who lost a Senate race despite favorable press coverage by standing with Bush on most issues, as much as he tried to avoid saying so.


Not to mention likening embryonic stem-cell research with Nazi experimentation. That surely makes Steele perfect fodder for the bat-sh**t crazy crowd I'd say

As far pre-election polling goes, he was about as much a winner last fall as Rick Santorum

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Actually, as I recall, the pre-election polling usually had Steele competitive, but never clearly ahead, while several polls showed Cardin with a solid lead.  As such, I never considered the race the "toss-up" that some observers did, especially as Steele had higher name recognition but couldn't get ahead which led me to think that Cardin had a better chance at picking up the undecided votes.

Cardin ultimately won by a 10-point margin, larger than most polls forecast (and larger than I thought.)  I guess I was right on my theory about the undecideds; better than expected Democratic GOTV also helped.  The media, meanwhile, seemed fixated on a potential major break of African American voters to Steele which didn't occur.
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« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2007, 03:34:24 PM »

Steele still has a future because he could always run for Governor in 2010 and he could win if O'Malley turns out to be a failure. 
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« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2007, 04:35:48 PM »


As far pre-election polling goes, he was about as much a winner last fall as Rick Santorum


Actually, as I recall, the pre-election polling usually had Steele competitive, but never clearly ahead, while several polls showed Cardin with a solid lead.  As such, I never considered the race the "toss-up" that some observers did, especially as Steele had higher name recognition but couldn't get ahead which led me to think that Cardin had a better chance at picking up the undecided votes.

Cardin ultimately won by a 10-point margin, larger than most polls forecast (and larger than I thought.)  I guess I was right on my theory about the undecideds; better than expected Democratic GOTV also helped.  The media, meanwhile, seemed fixated on a potential major break of African American voters to Steele which didn't occur.

Basically, that's my point. The last reaclearpolitics average had Cardin leading Steele by 3.7% yet he won by 10%, while in PA Casey was ahead by 11.5% yet he won by 17%. So in that perspective, Steele was about as much a winner as Rick Santorum in that polls, overall, underestimated support for Cardin and Casey

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« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2007, 05:01:24 PM »

You also have to keep in mind this was a really bad, bad year for the GOP. If last November was a better time for the Republicans I could have seen Steele pull an upset.
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« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2007, 05:35:22 PM »

You also have to keep in mind this was a really bad, bad year for the GOP. If last November was a better time for the Republicans I could have seen Steele pull an upset.

That we'll never know Wink

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