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« on: September 20, 2006, 03:53:01 PM »

Which state has the most corrupt government?

I have to say NJ followed closely by OH.

NJ, whether it be Democrats (mostly) or the few Republicans are all corrupt.  Whether it was Schundler, Forrester, Corzine, McGreevey, or Bob Menendez, it seems like everyone is corrupt.  Sure, Corzine, Menendez, and Schundler (all Hudson County) are probably the most, but can we forget Zelena Farber or Jim McGreevey and his appointee Golan Cipel.  It seems as if New Jersey really has no good politicians anymore.
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2006, 03:54:42 PM »

TX, AK, OH are all bad.
CA and KY have corrupt governors too.
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2006, 03:56:42 PM »

TX, AK, OH are all bad.
CA and KY have corrupt governors too.

Of course you only named red states and red governors, yes of course, Arnold is much more corrupt than Jon Corzine and Bob Menendez.

OH and NJ are really the most corrupt states, it's a race between the two.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2006, 03:58:11 PM »


Lousiana is pretty bad too, I agree
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2006, 03:59:21 PM »

TX, AK, OH are all bad.
CA and KY have corrupt governors too.

Of course you only named red states and red governors, yes of course, Arnold is much more corrupt than Jon Corzine and Bob Menendez.

OH and NJ are really the most corrupt states, it's a race between the two.

NJ isn't that corrupt. LA is the token corrupt not completely red state.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2006, 04:01:39 PM »

TX, AK, OH are all bad.
CA and KY have corrupt governors too.

Of course you only named red states and red governors, yes of course, Arnold is much more corrupt than Jon Corzine and Bob Menendez.

OH and NJ are really the most corrupt states, it's a race between the two.

NJ isn't that corrupt. 

Obviously you are confusing w/another state.

I think NJ's biggest problem is the appointing of cabinet officials rather than electing them

An election never would produce Zelena Farber
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2006, 04:54:32 PM »

I live in it. Ohio is a close second.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2006, 05:11:41 PM »

NJ, then OH
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2006, 05:32:46 PM »

Uninformed ranking:

1. New Jersey
2. Louisiana
3. Nevada
4. Ohio
5. Texas
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2006, 06:59:41 PM »

NJ has a bad rap for being corrupt. I just think that we have better cops and intelligence here which uncovers more things. Other states are probably far more corrupt.
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2006, 07:04:52 PM »

Haha, nobody tops the District of Columbia!

But since we're talking about states and (I assume) statewide offices, I would have to place New Jersey, Ohio, Kentucky, and Texas above the rest.  Some regions of some states are particularly corrupt (Detroit, Boston, and Chicago come to mind).  Not all of New Jersey is that bad.  I lived for a while in Monmouth County, where there is virtually no corruption compared to Union, Camden, Essex, and Hudson counties.
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2006, 07:18:32 PM »

West Virginia
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2006, 07:41:13 PM »
« Edited: September 20, 2006, 08:49:49 PM by angus »

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aaaah!  none of youze bastards are gonna correct my grammar.  that's embarassing.  you're like the kind of guys who'll let me walk around with a bit of lettuce in between my teeth.  all day.  without even saying anything about it.  probably giggling behind my back all the time.

you know I mean imperfect tense:  had one.

I hate that about the english language.  In spanish they actually have differnent words:

Juan tenia un caro.  (imperfect)
Juan tuve una cita.  (preterite)

I wish we had different words for that sort of stuff.  Fuçking brits. 

well, you know what I meant, anyway.
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2006, 07:41:48 PM »

nobody mentioned massachusetts?
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2006, 08:50:32 PM »

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aaaah!  none of youze bastards are gonna correct my grammar.  that's embarassing.  you're like the kind of guys who'll let me walk around with a bit of lettuce in between my teeth.  all day.  without even saying anything about it.  probably giggling behind my back all the time.

you know I mean imperfect tense:  had one.

I hate that about the english language.  In spanish they actually have differnent words:

Juan tenia un caro.  (imperfect)
Juan tuve una cita.  (preterite)

I wish we had different words for that sort of stuff.  Fuçking brits. 

well, you know what I meant, anyway.
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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2006, 09:24:19 PM »

Not all of New Jersey is that bad.  I lived for a while in Monmouth County, where there is virtually no corruption compared to Union, Camden, Essex, and Hudson counties.

Yes, it is mainly the urban counties that have huge problems.  And no, the cops are not very good in those areas, conan.  Hence Camden being the most dangerous city in the country and Newark third.
I dont mean patrol officers, I mean like FBI, Investigators, prosecutors, and others.
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2006, 10:46:21 PM »

Ohio
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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2006, 01:24:34 AM »

NJ has a bad rap for being corrupt. I just think that we have better cops and intelligence here which uncovers more things. Other states are probably far more corrupt.

ah, that's the difference between government and administration.  Still, from what I hear NJ is pretty corrupt with their governmental leaders... I'll go with that.
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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2006, 07:21:41 AM »

Boston, Worcester, Springfield - I would say are corrupt. However, I don't think the state is (in general) anymore.
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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2006, 07:24:10 AM »

Maryland (Baltimore City at least)
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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2006, 02:35:12 PM »

NJ has a bad rap for being corrupt. I just think that we have better cops and intelligence here which uncovers more things. Other states are probably far more corrupt.

ah, that's the difference between government and administration.  Still, from what I hear NJ is pretty corrupt with their governmental leaders... I'll go with that.
Yea there are some of the state legislators and some city officials of course but that isnt uncommon. It's more prone to corruption too because the only statewide elections here are for governor.
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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2006, 04:54:12 PM »


Not as bad as it used to be.  The District's government is far worse than Baltimore. 
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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2006, 06:11:58 PM »


And you base that on what? I have family who have worked in the city for over 30 years and they say it's just as bad as ever.
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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2006, 06:51:26 PM »
« Edited: September 21, 2006, 06:59:53 PM by Senator jerusalemcar5 »

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aaaah!  none of youze bastards are gonna correct my grammar.  that's embarassing.  you're like the kind of guys who'll let me walk around with a bit of lettuce in between my teeth.  all day.  without even saying anything about it.  probably giggling behind my back all the time.

you know I mean imperfect tense:  had one.

I hate that about the english language.  In spanish they actually have differnent words:

Juan tenia un caro.  (imperfect)
Juan tuve una cita.  (preterite)

I wish we had different words for that sort of stuff.  Fuçking brits. 

well, you know what I meant, anyway.
Juan tenia un carro*
Juan tuvo* una cita
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How could no one have mentioned the New York leg?  We have had the same parties with the same leaders in power since as long as I can remember.  Bruno had been leading the Senate since 1995 and Silver the Assembly since 1994.  Pataki was in the governorship starting in 1995 too.  The positions of majority leader in the Senate and speaker in the assembly basically correspond to having full control of that legislative body.  It is disturbing. This has lead to a monotonous do nothing legislature that is more focused on pork money and gerry mandering than anything else.  These men are brutal too.  When majority leader Bragman led a coup to overthrow Silver as Speaker, he was defeated, stripped of his position and committee assignments, his large office, and his staff. He didn't seek reelection that year. Assemblymembers who supported Bragman were also stripped of committee assignments and had legislation blocked by Silver.    Also, the first on time budget in twenty years was only passed after the 2004 election in which incumbents actually started being removed from office (a shocker in New York). 

I think we are definitely high up in corruption town.
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« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2006, 06:54:21 PM »

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aaaah!  none of youze bastards are gonna correct my grammar.  that's embarassing.  you're like the kind of guys who'll let me walk around with a bit of lettuce in between my teeth.  all day.  without even saying anything about it.  probably giggling behind my back all the time.

you know I mean imperfect tense:  had one.

I hate that about the english language.  In spanish they actually have differnent words:

Juan tenia un caro.  (imperfect)
Juan tuve una cita.  (preterite)

I wish we had different words for that sort of stuff.  Fuçking brits. 

well, you know what I meant, anyway.
Juan tenia un carro*
Juan tuvo* una cita
BTW.


How could no one have mentioned the New York leg?  We have had the same parties with the same leaders in power since as long as I can remember.  Bruno had been leading the Senate since 1995 and Silver the Assembly since 1994.  Pataki was in the governorship starting in 1995 too.  The positions of majority leader in the Senate and speaker in the assembly basically correspond to having full control of that legislative body.  It is disturbing. This has lead to a monotonous do nothing legislature that is more focused on pork money and gerry mandering than anything else.  These men are brutal too.  When majority leader Bragman led a coup to overthrow Silver as Speaker, he was defeated, stripped of his position and committee assignments, his large office, and his staff.  Assemblymembers who supported Bragman were also stripped of committee assignments and had legislation blocked by Silver.  He didn't seek reelection that year.  Also, the first on time budget in twenty years was only passed after the 2004 election in which incumbents actually started being removed from office (a shocker in New York). 

I think we are definitely high up in corruption town.

Believe me, your problems are nothing compared to NJ Tongue
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