What is the worst fascist party in Europe?

[??????????]

Since GMantis is from a country that actually was communist, I'd say he probably knows more than you here StatesRights.

Found any hot commie rebels yet?

[Joe Republic]

Last option, though calling these groups "fascist" is a little extreme.

You love fascists?

[??????????]

Last option, though calling these groups "fascist" is a little extreme.

You love fascists?

I think my first sentence answered the question in regards to them being fascist.

[MasterJedi]

National Front

[Joe Republic]

Last option, though calling these groups "fascist" is a little extreme.

You love fascists?

I think my first sentence answered the question in regards to them being fascist.

I guess that's an interesting perspective, especially since it's coming from somebody in the Constitution Party.  Few people really want to admit to being a fascist these days.

[??????????]

Last option, though calling these groups "fascist" is a little extreme.

You love fascists?

I think my first sentence answered the question in regards to them being fascist.

I guess that's an interesting perspective, especially since it's coming from somebody in the Constitution Party.  Few people really want to admit to being a fascist these days.

Few people want to admit to being called a socialist or liberal.

[Joe Republic]

Being called a socialist or liberal certainly isn't as bad as actually being one, though, don't you think?

[??????????]

Being called a socialist or liberal certainly isn't as bad as actually being one, though, don't you think?

How extreme does a left winger have to be before they are a socialist or liberal? How extreme does a right winger have to be to be a nationalist or fascist? It's all a matter of perspective really. A liberal to me may be a moderate to you whereas a fascist to you may be just conservative to me.

[GMantis]

Last option, though calling these groups "fascist" is a little extreme.

You love fascists?

I think my first sentence answered the question in regards to them being fascist.

I guess that's an interesting perspective, especially since it's coming from somebody in the Constitution Party.  Few people really want to admit to being a fascist these days.

Few people want to admit to being called a socialist or liberal.

Yes, in the US but not really in Europe. Whereas no one wants to be called a fascist anywhere. Le Pen, for example, said once that he wasn't a fascist but a National Socialist - which is actually worse.

Being called a socialist or liberal certainly isn't as bad as actually being one, though, don't you think?

How extreme does a left winger have to be before they are a socialist or liberal? How extreme does a right winger have to be to be a nationalist or fascist? It's all a matter of perspective really. A liberal to me may be a moderate to you whereas a fascist to you may be just conservative to me.

Fascism has some specific features, which differentiates it from other right wing ideologies. This site
has a good definition.

[Joe Republic]

Being called a socialist or liberal certainly isn't as bad as actually being one, though, don't you think?

How extreme does a left winger have to be before they are a socialist or liberal? How extreme does a right winger have to be to be a nationalist or fascist? It's all a matter of perspective really. A liberal to me may be a moderate to you whereas a fascist to you may be just conservative to me.

That's true enough; we can agree on that.  The political axis itself is always just a matter of perspective.

[freek]

I would take issue with Vlaams Belang being on that list; still at least you didn't include LPF

The LPF hardly exists anymore, so what difference would it make?

[Colin]

The NPD is worst in ideology, but the Lega Nord has far greater influence, which makes it worst overall. Ataka does not belong on the list - it's more of a far left party than a far right one and is more moderate than most other parties described here. It may, however, appear extremist because its leader is a madman.

I kind of thought that Ataka was more like Self Defence of the Polish Republic than the NPD or BNP. Eastern European, populist, leftist, agrarian.

And States come on you have to consider at least the NPD fascist. They openly support Hitler and are openly neo-Nazi.

[Bono]

How extreme does a right winger have to be to be a ... fascist?

Not at all, as fascism is a left-wing ideology.

[Tender Branson]

Freedom Party (Austria): Nationalist, anti-immigration, psuedo-fascist. Since Haider left the party I think its become less fascist and more anti-immigration. Haider really made the party into a bad of Nazi lovers though. I would consider the BZO to be the more fascist/neo-Nazi party now.

A good description, but I would say both the Strache-FPÖ (Freedom Party) and the Haider/Westenthaler BZÖ (Alliance for the Future of Austria) are equally far-right. The positive thing is, that after Oct. 1, the BZÖ will probably no longer be in the Austrian Parliament and only be strong in 1 state, but even there the Social Democrats are by far the largest party. You can say that the far right in Austria has a potential of about 15% and currently this percentage is diminishing. The 27% of the (united) FPÖ election result in 1999 resulted basically in the disapproval with the more than 20 year long grand coalition and therefore many blue collar workers (who you can´t count to the far right clientel) voted for the FPÖ then. The FPÖ and BZÖ are indeed very agitating/populist/nationalist parties who are agressiveley anti-foreigners and euro-sceptic. But both party chiefs made clear in this election campaign that nazi-ideology has no place within their parties. But the past and different statements have shown it otherwise. At least i would consider the German NPD by far the more facist party.

[GMantis]

The NPD is worst in ideology, but the Lega Nord has far greater influence, which makes it worst overall. Ataka does not belong on the list - it's more of a far left party than a far right one and is more moderate than most other parties described here. It may, however, appear extremist because its leader is a madman.

I kind of thought that Ataka was more like Self Defence of the Polish Republic than the NPD or BNP. Eastern European, populist, leftist, agrarian.

And States come on you have to consider at least the NPD fascist. They openly support Hitler and are openly neo-Nazi.

Ataka is not really agrarian, though it has some pro-agrarian policies. They don't regard themselves as leftist (though they have a leftist economic policy) and are very anticommunist. They do resemble the Self of the Polish Republic in that they are very pro-religious.
They also oppose special right to minorities - gypsies and turks. They are also quite antisemitic.

[??????????]

And States come on you have to consider at least the NPD fascist. They openly support Hitler and are openly neo-Nazi.

I didn't think that'd be allowed in Germany but if that is true..then OK I disagree with that group.

[Middle-aged Europe]

And States come on you have to consider at least the NPD fascist. They openly support Hitler and are openly neo-Nazi.

I didn't think that'd be allowed in Germany but if that is true..then OK I disagree with that group.

Technically it isn't, but my impression is that they've become lenient in implementing the laws. For example, Udo Voigt, the federal chairman of the NPD, once called Adolf Hitler "the greatest German statesman" in an interview.

[MaC]

other: Communist Party.