What is the worst fascist party in Europe?

[GMantis]

The NPD is worst in ideology, but the Lega Nord has far greater influence, which makes it worst overall. Ataka does not belong on the list - it's more of a far left party than a far right one and is more moderate than most other parties described here. It may, however, appear extremist because its leader is a madman.

[GMantis]

Last option, though calling these groups "fascist" is a little extreme.

If those above are not facsist, is there at all a group existing today, which would be considered fascist by your rather narrow standarts?

[GMantis]

Last option, though calling these groups "fascist" is a little extreme.

If those above are not facsist, is there at all group existing today, which would be considered fascist by your rather narrow standarts?

No. Communism is the greater threat.

Have you been living in a cave the last 15 years? Communism as a credible threat to Western civilization is practically dead, while fascism (including its Islamic variety) is constantly rising.

[GMantis]

Last option, though calling these groups "fascist" is a little extreme.

If those above are not facsist, is there at all group existing today, which would be considered fascist by your rather narrow standarts?

No. Communism is the greater threat.

Have you been living in a cave the last 15 years? Communism as a credible threat to Western civilization is practically dead, while fascism (including its Islamic variety) is constantly rising.

Russia is practically still a communist nation, Cuba is a communist nation as well as China is as is Venezula. Those nations have far more power then some backwards religious whackos.

Russia is a communist country?! By this definition, most European countries are also communist. As for China, a threat i s not only determined by power, but by intentions, and there the Islamists are far more dangerous. Also, China can't use its power as openly as the Islamists. Anyway, the main danger from radical Islam is not their conventional power, but demographics.

[GMantis]

Considering that most of Russias current politicians are old hardliners from the USSR I wouldn't say Russia is completely free from Soviet influence. So called "fascist" parties in Europe are really no threat to anyone as, on whole, Europe has no bad intentions towards the rest of the world like in times past. China is a threat whether you want to believe it or not, the sell weapons to North Korea and god knows who else. Also they have tried to buy the Panama canal and they are making economically strategic moves to shut the U.S. down if need be.

And you can quit calling it "radical Islam" as their's no need to be redundant.

The Soviet politicians who are still influential today are not the hardliners, but those who saw the writing on the wall and quickly switched to pro-capitalist policies. They are no more communist today than the Republican party.
China indeed is trying to increase its influence on the world stage, but this is partly to counter the far greater (if more covert) US efforts to undermine them.
I do not like Islam at all, but to insist that all of it is radical is quite ignorant.
Oh, and it's good to see you admit that Europe was once a threat to the rest of the world: you usually portray them as a bringers of civilization.

[GMantis]

Oh, and it's good to see you admit that Europe was once a threat to the rest of the world: you usually portray them as a bringers of civilization.

I think the history of Islam points to its overall radicalism. I've discussed that issue to death though.

Europe of the mid 20th century was a threat Hitler/Stalin, etc. I do however approve of Europe from 1500-1900 though. And yes, they did bring or at least tried to bring civilization to the backwards societies in Africa, the Americas and the Middle East.

While the history of Christianity points to enlightened moderation.
Europe didn't bring civilization: it brought technology. Most of those places already had civilization, which the Europeans destroyed with varying success.
During the mid 20th century Europe was more of a threat to itself, Hitler and Stalin damaged Europe far more than other continents.

[GMantis]

Last option, though calling these groups "fascist" is a little extreme.

You love fascists?

I think my first sentence answered the question in regards to them being fascist.

I guess that's an interesting perspective, especially since it's coming from somebody in the Constitution Party.  Few people really want to admit to being a fascist these days.

Few people want to admit to being called a socialist or liberal.

Yes, in the US but not really in Europe. Whereas no one wants to be called a fascist anywhere. Le Pen, for example, said once that he wasn't a fascist but a National Socialist - which is actually worse.

Being called a socialist or liberal certainly isn't as bad as actually being one, though, don't you think?

How extreme does a left winger have to be before they are a socialist or liberal? How extreme does a right winger have to be to be a nationalist or fascist? It's all a matter of perspective really. A liberal to me may be a moderate to you whereas a fascist to you may be just conservative to me.

Fascism has some specific features, which differentiates it from other right wing ideologies. This site
has a good definition.

[GMantis]

The NPD is worst in ideology, but the Lega Nord has far greater influence, which makes it worst overall. Ataka does not belong on the list - it's more of a far left party than a far right one and is more moderate than most other parties described here. It may, however, appear extremist because its leader is a madman.

I kind of thought that Ataka was more like Self Defence of the Polish Republic than the NPD or BNP. Eastern European, populist, leftist, agrarian.

And States come on you have to consider at least the NPD fascist. They openly support Hitler and are openly neo-Nazi.

Ataka is not really agrarian, though it has some pro-agrarian policies. They don't regard themselves as leftist (though they have a leftist economic policy) and are very anticommunist. They do resemble the Self of the Polish Republic in that they are very pro-religious.
They also oppose special right to minorities - gypsies and turks. They are also quite antisemitic.