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« on: September 25, 2006, 10:18:59 PM »

A: A military regime that bans political activity for one year, followed by a restoration of democracy and free elections after a campaign against massive corruption

B: An extremely corrupt government led by an extremely corrupt Prime Minister known for vote buying and falsifying and keeping implementing policies for the purposes only of filling his own pockets and winning/stealing elections.
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2006, 12:39:37 AM »

B-No gaurantee of the end of A's dictatorship. But emigrate.
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2006, 08:30:10 AM »

B, I'll actually take freedom unlike you who have so much faith that the military will actually have free elections in Thailand for a year.
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2006, 08:31:39 AM »

B, I'll actually take freedom unlike you who have so much faith that the military will actually have free elections in Thailand for a year.
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2006, 08:53:43 AM »

B, I'll actually take freedom unlike you who have so much faith that the military will actually have free elections in Thailand for a year.
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2006, 09:22:42 AM »

Apparently you forgot to include in Option B that the extremely corrupt Prime Minister already promised to step down (and even if he doesn't he can still be elected out of office), whereas the military in Option A provides no guarantee or fail-safe option that they'll follow suit.  For that reason, I proudly vote for Option B.
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2006, 03:13:17 PM »

B, I'll actually take freedom unlike you who have so much faith that the military will actually have free elections in Thailand for a year.

'Freedom'?!  You actually believe that 'democracy' equals freedom?

Certainly in the american and the thai case it does not, though I admit Thailand is even now residually a lot more free than the US.
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2006, 05:04:23 PM »

B, I'll actually take freedom unlike you who have so much faith that the military will actually have free elections in Thailand for a year.
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2006, 07:22:21 PM »

B, I'll actually take freedom unlike you who have so much faith that the military will actually have free elections in Thailand for a year.
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2006, 09:42:44 AM »

Isn't it a little odd that people like BRTD trust the Thai military more then their own?

Personally, I don't trust either Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2006, 10:42:16 AM »

A: A military regime that bans political activity for one year, followed by a restoration of democracy and free elections after a campaign against massive corruption
Lol. You're not going to get a "restoration of democracy", mostly because Thailand has never been a particularly democratic country in the first place - thanks to the continuing power of the exact same people who lead the coup now.
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No worse than the opposition, actually.
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2006, 11:57:15 AM »

Isn't it a little odd that people like BRTD trust the Thai military more then their own?

Personally, I don't trust either Tongue

Not really, I just trust Thaksin least of all.

But it appears from the news most Thais are happy now, and according to opebo the military is much nicer to prostitutes. Plus I doubt they'll ever propose raising the drinking age to 25.

A: A military regime that bans political activity for one year, followed by a restoration of democracy and free elections after a campaign against massive corruption
Lol. You're not going to get a "restoration of democracy", mostly because Thailand has never been a particularly democratic country in the first place - thanks to the continuing power of the exact same people who lead the coup now.

It was during the mid-late 90s. Thaksin mostly screwed all that up. Thaksin was the biggest threat to Thai democracy.
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2006, 12:54:01 PM »

Isn't it a little odd that people like BRTD trust the Thai military more then their own?

Not at all, Hughento!  The Thai military is quite small and harmless by comparison to that of the Empire.  The Thai military has never wreaked havok across large areas of the globe, or genocided other ethnic groups (Vietnamese, etc.).  No, the Thai military is mostly geared around collecting money from the sex industry and playing a lot of golf.

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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2006, 10:11:38 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2006, 10:45:11 PM »

Neither. I prefer to stick to first world nations.
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« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2006, 01:59:41 PM »

Neither. I prefer to stick to first world nations.

There is only one world.  We all live in this world together.  None of us is more deserving to be here than others.  There is no need to stratify some of us into second or third class ciitizens.

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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2006, 02:54:19 PM »

There is only one world.  We all live in this world together.  None of us is more deserving to be here than others.  There is no need to stratify some of us into second or third class ciitizens.

Yeah that's nice and all, but the reality is very different.

(On a related note, the concept of 1st/2nd/3rd world originally had nothing to do with their economic statuses, but actually their allegiance during the Cold War.)
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« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2006, 09:42:12 PM »

Yep. First world was US+Allies, Second world was Soviets+allies and the third world was everyone else.
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2006, 05:02:11 AM »

There is only one world.  We all live in this world together.  None of us is more deserving to be here than others.  There is no need to stratify some of us into second or third class ciitizens.

Yeah that's nice and all, but the reality is very different.

(On a related note, the concept of 1st/2nd/3rd world originally had nothing to do with their economic statuses, but actually their allegiance during the Cold War.)
Nyes. Not as different as you think on part one, and both concepts are of roughly equal age on part 2.
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2006, 06:28:37 AM »

There is only one world.  We all live in this world together.  None of us is more deserving to be here than others.  There is no need to stratify some of us into second or third class ciitizens.

Yeah that's nice and all, but the reality is very different.

(On a related note, the concept of 1st/2nd/3rd world originally had nothing to do with their economic statuses, but actually their allegiance during the Cold War.)

Correct about the cold war meaning, but nowadays it is used to imply economic well being.  Interestingly, it is a completely deceptive representation of reality, Joe Republic - the rich in 'third world' countries are enormously more privileged than the vast majority in the 'first world' countries.  Basically this is just another aspect of the continual propaganda stream designed to feed the hubris of the American worker. 

One's position on the worker/owner divide is what matters, not one's nationality.
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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2006, 03:51:25 PM »

One's position on the worker/owner divide is what matters, not one's nationality.

That is a key tenet of Marxism.
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