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« on: September 29, 2006, 04:59:49 pm »
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Allen (R) - 43%
Webb (D) -  43%


This is a SCOOP only...

Mason Dixon hasnt yet released its results.

http://notlarrysabato.typepad.com/doh/2006/09/mason_dixon_res.html
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2006, 05:02:54 pm »
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Holy crap!
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2006, 05:06:51 pm »
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Well I can't help but feel smug and I will be slapped down for this but I told you so!  All the people on the SUSA VA Senate threads called me basically wrong when I questioned how Allen could be winning 27% of African Americans and 75% of Hispanic Americans.  I always felt this was close and now, everyone's favourite pollster is behind Adlai! 

If I have one niggling doubt, isn't 43%-43% a bit low?  Allen must have sunk pretty badly. 
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2006, 05:13:26 pm »
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Well if this true, everyone on here by now knows that MD's record puts SUSA's to shame. Also I think they mentioned this poll was coming out on Hardball tonight. If Allen is at 43%..he is in serious, serious trouble.
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2006, 05:18:10 pm »
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It hasn't been released yet so, I wouldn't put this up.
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2006, 05:34:30 pm »
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Quote from: Quincy on September 29, 2006, 05:18:10 pm
It hasn't been released yet so, I wouldn't put this up.
Thats why i said its a scoop only.
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2006, 05:38:18 pm »
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Whoever said hardball is correct. My poor papa thought that this poll was a Webb internal poll..... Its not.
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2006, 05:44:24 pm »
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I wouldn't get my hopes up and the poll hasn't been released. At any rate Webb don't have the lead so I wouldn't get my hopes either.
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2006, 05:46:40 pm »
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From the site linked to:

MASON DIXON RESULTS
Please be advised that Mason-Dixon has not released a poll on the Virginia Senate race.  Please remove any such reference from your web site.

 

J. Brad Coker
Managing Director

Mason-Dixon Polling & Research, Inc.
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2006, 05:47:42 pm »
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Please delete this thread, it should not be on this website.
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2006, 05:58:20 pm »
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Stickied as an example of why you should not post polls until you see them from a reputable source.
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2006, 06:00:36 pm »
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Quote from: Adlai Stevenson on September 29, 2006, 05:06:51 pm
Well I can't help but feel smug and I will be slapped down for this but I told you so!  All the people on the SUSA VA Senate threads called me basically wrong when I questioned how Allen could be winning 27% of African Americans and 75% of Hispanic Americans.  I always felt this was close and now, everyone's favourite pollster is behind Adlai! 

If I have one niggling doubt, isn't 43%-43% a bit low?  Allen must have sunk pretty badly. 

I am concluding that you didn't read my post.  I never said you were wrong in your estimation.  I merely said that you don't know anything about how polls are conducted or about statistics in general.  That's all.
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2006, 06:01:01 pm »
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Quote from: ATFFL on September 29, 2006, 05:58:20 pm
Stickied as an example of why you should not post polls until you see them from a reputable source.

Thank you.  Perhaps people won't be as "trigger-happy" next time.
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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2006, 06:10:54 pm »
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The poll is still real though. Unless they are making stuff on Hardball (which granted is quite possible Smiley).
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2006, 06:12:47 pm »
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The poll is still real though. Unless they are making stuff on Hardball (which granted is quite possible Smiley).

Chris Matthews is definetly a closet Democratic strategist, I mean I trust Stephen Colbert more.
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« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2006, 06:14:25 pm »
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Quote from: Quincy on September 29, 2006, 05:47:42 pm
Please delete this thread, it should not be on this website.
Why delete it when I say its only a scoop and they havent released the poll yet. It is in the best interest of everyone to get any information and then if it turns out to be false change it.
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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2006, 06:15:41 pm »
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Quote from: DownWithTheLeft on September 29, 2006, 06:12:47 pm
Quote from: Eraserhead on September 29, 2006, 06:10:54 pm
The poll is still real though. Unless they are making stuff on Hardball (which granted is quite possible Smiley).

Chris Matthews is definetly a closet Democratic strategist, I mean I trust Stephen Colbert more.

Not really even a closet Democrat. He worked for Carter for years.
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« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2006, 06:16:04 pm »
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THEN what is this?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15065908/

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« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2006, 06:16:26 pm »
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Quote from: Eraserhead on September 29, 2006, 06:10:54 pm
The poll is still real though. Unless they are making stuff on Hardball (which granted is quite possible Smiley).

Chris Matthews is definetly a closet Democratic strategist, I mean I trust Stephen Colbert more.
I dont know, Chris Mathews sends mixed signals all over the place. And he has donated money to reps.
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« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2006, 06:16:34 pm »
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Quote from: Eraserhead on September 29, 2006, 06:10:54 pm
The poll is still real though. Unless they are making stuff on Hardball (which granted is quite possible Smiley).

Chris Matthews is definetly a closet Democratic strategist, I mean I trust Stephen Colbert more.

Not really even a closet Democrat. He worked for Carter for years.

True, but Neil Cavuto worked for Carter, and he's not exactly a liberal
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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2006, 06:17:33 pm »
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and this

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15047082/

Huh?

THIS POLL SEEMS REAL FAKE ON NATIONAL WEBSITE! Either a. the poll is real or b. someone is going to get fired.
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« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2006, 06:18:13 pm »
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Yes I believe one can take the Whoops Fake Poll banner down now.
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« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2006, 07:03:47 pm »
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Quote from: conan on September 29, 2006, 06:18:13 pm
Yes I believe one can take the Whoops Fake Poll banner down now.

Mason-Dixon is still not listing it on their website.

This has gotten weirder.
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« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2006, 07:09:03 pm »
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Quote from: conan on September 29, 2006, 06:18:13 pm
Yes I believe one can take the Whoops Fake Poll banner down now.

Mason-Dixon is still not listing it on their website.

This has gotten weirder.

Could just be that they have released it to the press, but slow to update their sire.
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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2006, 07:15:25 pm »
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The Roanoke Times says the poll was conducted partially for MSNBC, so it looks genuine.

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But, yeah, rumour polls are annoying and should be indicated as being unsubstantiated in the topic title.  Please.
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