Foley: A "Gay Man" and was Molested by Clergyman as Teen

[Conan]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/03/foley.scandal/index.html

Read and discuss

[DownWithTheLeft]

Everyone blames the church for everything, this is all because the Catholic church has become to accepting, we should publically humilated the gay priests in the town square, then the church could become a church instead of a liberal secularist society

[Alcon]

then the church could become a church instead of a liberal secularist society

Congratulations.  That may have been the least sensical statement I've seen all day.

[Conan]

Everyone blames the church for everything, this is all because the Catholic church has become to accepting, we should publically humilated the gay priests in the town square, then the church could become a church instead of a liberal secularist society

Like the church is so liberal. The Catholic Church is one of the most conservative churches. If they were less conservative and aloud there priests to marry then they wouldnt turn out to be this way. Not all of the child molesting priests are gay either.

[DownWithTheLeft]

then the church could become a church instead of a liberal secularist society

Congratulations.  That may have been the least sensical statement I've seen all day.

The church has changed and not for the better

[Joe Republic]

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Wait, wtf?  Mark Foley is gay?!  Hold the phone.

[Alcon]

then the church could become a church instead of a liberal secularist society

Congratulations.  That may have been the least sensical statement I've seen all day.

The church has changed and not for the better

OK, well, whatever.  Let me break down that statement instead of being lazy:

Are you actually implying that the Church ignored the gay priests because they wanted to be accepting of gays or paedophiles (the later of which is a mainstream liberal position now?) as opposed to covering their own collective asses, a phenomenon which knows no political boundaries?

What does any of that have to do with secularism?

[DownWithTheLeft]

then the church could become a church instead of a liberal secularist society

Congratulations.  That may have been the least sensical statement I've seen all day.

The church has changed and not for the better

OK, well, whatever.  Let me break down that statement instead of being lazy:

Are you actually implying that the Church ignored the gay priests because they wanted to be accepting of gays or paedophiles (the later of which is a mainstream liberal position now?) as opposed to covering their own collective asses, a phenomenon which knows no political boundaries?

What does any of that have to do with secularism?

The church is trying to become secular and "PC" rather than be a true church, Vatican II really hurt the Catholic Church.  The final straw that made me not want to go to church was my parish allowing a Democratic councilmen as a Deacon.

Here's the church's problem, they've lost Jesus's message:

Jesus changed Mary Magdelin, he didn't say "keep being a prostitute because I must learn to accept your new alternate lifestyle."  He said, "stop that sh** or I'm not going to help you"

The church needs to do more of converting and saving than accepting

[Conan]

then the church could become a church instead of a liberal secularist society

Congratulations.  That may have been the least sensical statement I've seen all day.

The church has changed and not for the better

OK, well, whatever.  Let me break down that statement instead of being lazy:

Are you actually implying that the Church ignored the gay priests because they wanted to be accepting of gays or paedophiles (the later of which is a mainstream liberal position now?) as opposed to covering their own collective asses, a phenomenon which knows no political boundaries?

What does any of that have to do with secularism?

The church is trying to become secular and "PC" rather than be a true church, Vatican II really hurt the Catholic Church.  The final straw that made me not want to go to church was my parish allowing a Democratic councilmen as a Deacon.

Here's the church's problem, they've lost Jesus's message:

Jesus changed Mary Magdelin, he didn't say "keep being a prostitute because I must learn to accept your new alternate lifestyle."  He said, "stop that sh** or I'm not going to help you"

The church needs to do more of converting and saving than accepting

You dont seem to know much about Mary Magdelin or christianity.

[DownWithTheLeft]

then the church could become a church instead of a liberal secularist society

Congratulations.  That may have been the least sensical statement I've seen all day.

The church has changed and not for the better

OK, well, whatever.  Let me break down that statement instead of being lazy:

Are you actually implying that the Church ignored the gay priests because they wanted to be accepting of gays or paedophiles (the later of which is a mainstream liberal position now?) as opposed to covering their own collective asses, a phenomenon which knows no political boundaries?

What does any of that have to do with secularism?

The church is trying to become secular and "PC" rather than be a true church, Vatican II really hurt the Catholic Church.  The final straw that made me not want to go to church was my parish allowing a Democratic councilmen as a Deacon.

Here's the church's problem, they've lost Jesus's message:

Jesus changed Mary Magdelin, he didn't say "keep being a prostitute because I must learn to accept your new alternate lifestyle."  He said, "stop that sh** or I'm not going to help you"

The church needs to do more of converting and saving than accepting

You dont seem to know much about Mary Magdelin or christianity.

I'd like to know where I'm wrong, what I said is the actual teachings not the new PC church

[Conan]

then the church could become a church instead of a liberal secularist society

Congratulations.  That may have been the least sensical statement I've seen all day.

The church has changed and not for the better

OK, well, whatever.  Let me break down that statement instead of being lazy:

Are you actually implying that the Church ignored the gay priests because they wanted to be accepting of gays or paedophiles (the later of which is a mainstream liberal position now?) as opposed to covering their own collective asses, a phenomenon which knows no political boundaries?

What does any of that have to do with secularism?

The church is trying to become secular and "PC" rather than be a true church, Vatican II really hurt the Catholic Church.  The final straw that made me not want to go to church was my parish allowing a Democratic councilmen as a Deacon.

Here's the church's problem, they've lost Jesus's message:

Jesus changed Mary Magdelin, he didn't say "keep being a prostitute because I must learn to accept your new alternate lifestyle."  He said, "stop that sh** or I'm not going to help you"

The church needs to do more of converting and saving than accepting

You dont seem to know much about Mary Magdelin or christianity.

I'd like to know where I'm wrong, what I said is the actual teachings not the new PC church

The Catholic church is very un PC. This is the church that says all gays will go to hell and that they are evil. Straight from the pope/former pope. This is the church who isnt cooperating with police in their crimes.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Take it outside, kids

[DownWithTheLeft]

then the church could become a church instead of a liberal secularist society

Congratulations.  That may have been the least sensical statement I've seen all day.

The church has changed and not for the better

OK, well, whatever.  Let me break down that statement instead of being lazy:

Are you actually implying that the Church ignored the gay priests because they wanted to be accepting of gays or paedophiles (the later of which is a mainstream liberal position now?) as opposed to covering their own collective asses, a phenomenon which knows no political boundaries?

What does any of that have to do with secularism?

The church is trying to become secular and "PC" rather than be a true church, Vatican II really hurt the Catholic Church.  The final straw that made me not want to go to church was my parish allowing a Democratic councilmen as a Deacon.

Here's the church's problem, they've lost Jesus's message:

Jesus changed Mary Magdelin, he didn't say "keep being a prostitute because I must learn to accept your new alternate lifestyle."  He said, "stop that sh** or I'm not going to help you"

The church needs to do more of converting and saving than accepting

You dont seem to know much about Mary Magdelin or christianity.

I'd like to know where I'm wrong, what I said is the actual teachings not the new PC church

The Catholic church is very un PC. This is the church that says all gays will go to hell and that they are evil. Straight from the pope/former pope. This is the church who isnt cooperating with police in their crimes.

Umm.., you said I was wrong, where was I wrong?

[Speed of Sound]

then the church could become a church instead of a liberal secularist society

Congratulations.  That may have been the least sensical statement I've seen all day.

The church has changed and not for the better

OK, well, whatever.  Let me break down that statement instead of being lazy:

Are you actually implying that the Church ignored the gay priests because they wanted to be accepting of gays or paedophiles (the later of which is a mainstream liberal position now?) as opposed to covering their own collective asses, a phenomenon which knows no political boundaries?

What does any of that have to do with secularism?

The church is trying to become secular and "PC" rather than be a true church, Vatican II really hurt the Catholic Church.  The final straw that made me not want to go to church was my parish allowing a Democratic councilmen as a Deacon.

Here's the church's problem, they've lost Jesus's message:

Jesus changed Mary Magdelin, he didn't say "keep being a prostitute because I must learn to accept your new alternate lifestyle."  He said, "stop that sh** or I'm not going to help you"

The church needs to do more of converting and saving than accepting

You dont seem to know much about...christianity.

Well then, it seems he's got all the requirements to be a mainstream Chrisitan.

[Conan]

then the church could become a church instead of a liberal secularist society

Congratulations.  That may have been the least sensical statement I've seen all day.

The church has changed and not for the better

OK, well, whatever.  Let me break down that statement instead of being lazy:

Are you actually implying that the Church ignored the gay priests because they wanted to be accepting of gays or paedophiles (the later of which is a mainstream liberal position now?) as opposed to covering their own collective asses, a phenomenon which knows no political boundaries?

What does any of that have to do with secularism?

The church is trying to become secular and "PC" rather than be a true church, Vatican II really hurt the Catholic Church.  The final straw that made me not want to go to church was my parish allowing a Democratic councilmen as a Deacon.

Here's the church's problem, they've lost Jesus's message:

Jesus changed Mary Magdelin, he didn't say "keep being a prostitute because I must learn to accept your new alternate lifestyle."  He said, "stop that sh** or I'm not going to help you"

The church needs to do more of converting and saving than accepting

You dont seem to know much about Mary Magdelin or christianity.

I'd like to know where I'm wrong, what I said is the actual teachings not the new PC church

The Catholic church is very un PC. This is the church that says all gays will go to hell and that they are evil. Straight from the pope/former pope. This is the church who isnt cooperating with police in their crimes.

Umm.., you said I was wrong, where was I wrong?

You said the church was pc and it isnt. It will take way to long to give a lesson on the scriptures. Go ask a priest or reverend whats wrong with your statement.

[DownWithTheLeft]

then the church could become a church instead of a liberal secularist society

Congratulations.  That may have been the least sensical statement I've seen all day.

The church has changed and not for the better

OK, well, whatever.  Let me break down that statement instead of being lazy:

Are you actually implying that the Church ignored the gay priests because they wanted to be accepting of gays or paedophiles (the later of which is a mainstream liberal position now?) as opposed to covering their own collective asses, a phenomenon which knows no political boundaries?

What does any of that have to do with secularism?

The church is trying to become secular and "PC" rather than be a true church, Vatican II really hurt the Catholic Church.  The final straw that made me not want to go to church was my parish allowing a Democratic councilmen as a Deacon.

Here's the church's problem, they've lost Jesus's message:

Jesus changed Mary Magdelin, he didn't say "keep being a prostitute because I must learn to accept your new alternate lifestyle."  He said, "stop that sh** or I'm not going to help you"

The church needs to do more of converting and saving than accepting

You dont seem to know much about Mary Magdelin or christianity.

I'd like to know where I'm wrong, what I said is the actual teachings not the new PC church

The Catholic church is very un PC. This is the church that says all gays will go to hell and that they are evil. Straight from the pope/former pope. This is the church who isnt cooperating with police in their crimes.

Umm.., you said I was wrong, where was I wrong?

You said the church was pc and it isnt. It will take way to long to give a lesson on the scriptures. Go ask a priest or reverend whats wrong with your statement.

Whether the church is PC or not is an opinion not a fact.  And what I said is exactly what the scriptures say.  Jesus did not say accept flaws, he said fix them

[Alcon]

Take it outside, kids

Could you please kick someone in the face (theologically speaking) so we can move on?  Preferrably DownWithTheLeft (or conan if you have to).

[Conan]

Take it outside, kids

Could you please kick someone in the face (theologically speaking) so we can move on?  Preferrably DownWithTheLeft (or conan if you have to).

Sorry for taking up space on this topic for such nonsense.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Take it outside, kids

Could you please kick someone in the face (theologically speaking) so we can move on?  Preferrably DownWithTheLeft (or conan if you have to).

Sorry for taking up space on this topic for such nonsense.

Yes, next time if your going to call someone "wrong" know what your talking about

[Conan]

Take it outside, kids

Could you please kick someone in the face (theologically speaking) so we can move on?  Preferrably DownWithTheLeft (or conan if you have to).

Sorry for taking up space on this topic for such nonsense.

Yes, next time if your going to call someone "wrong" know what your talking about

You were wrong. Again this is not the place to discuss this. Go ask some clergyman as they have all the time in the world and know more then me on this subject.

[Keystone Phil]

If they were less conservative and aloud there priests to marry then they wouldnt turn out to be this way.

Uh...no.

 

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Exactly. A lot of them are married so please explain how allowing priests to be married would reduce this?

[Keystone Phil]

This is the church that says all gays will go to hell and that they are evil. Straight from the pope/former pope.

Uh...wrong again and it would be funny if so many people didn't think it was true.