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[Alfie]

"Yes, it is known that one political rival in LBJ's early days of politics was murdered because he was going to turn LBJ in for his crookedness."

Is said demised person's name known?  I just don't buy it.    Johnson was a "big casualty" kind of guy -- the hyper-inflated body counts of Viet Cong, ordered by Westmoreland (or others, not sure) compliments that crude scale by which the Johnson admin measured success: if we killed more VC than they killed Americans, well -- that's good news for domestic consumption.  Besides, who in Texas didn't know LBJ's "deal" already?  

I'm reading Barbara Tuckman's "March of Folly", and I'm approaching that part of her book.  Really excellent and prescient woman,. Without trying to inFLAME anyone who supported the Bush War of Mass Distration, but subsitute "Iraq" for "Vietnam" (at least in policy developpment areas), and the interchangability will perhaps change your opinions on the ultimate outcomes of Iraq.

- Alfie

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"Yes, it is known that one political rival in LBJ's early days of politics was murdered because he was going to turn LBJ in for his crookedness."

Is said demised person's name known?  I just don't buy it.    Johnson was a "big casualty" kind of guy -- the hyper-inflated body counts of Viet Cong, ordered by Westmoreland (or others, not sure) compliments that crude scale by which the Johnson admin measured success: if we killed more VC than they killed Americans, well -- that's good news for domestic consumption.  Besides, who in Texas didn't know LBJ's "deal" already?  

I'm reading Barbara Tuckman's "March of Folly", and I'm approaching that part of her book.  Really excellent and prescient woman,. Without trying to inFLAME anyone who supported the Bush War of Mass Distration, but subsitute "Iraq" for "Vietnam" (at least in policy developpment areas), and the interchangability will perhaps change your opinions on the ultimate outcomes of Iraq.

- Alfie

Alfie

I apologize I can not provide a link. My source is a documentary that appeared on the History Channel called "The Men who killed Kennedy". The Johnson family raised hell about it and demanded it never to be shown again. Why is it that in his later years LBJ was said to have gone crazy? Guilt? We'll never know I guess.

[© Tweed the Younger]

3 ended up voting for it.

[Fritz]

Hey States, what happened to the Anti-Alfie pledge?  

[There Are Some Remedies Worse Than The Disease]

Barry is not often given the credit he deserved.  Mostly because his movement was hijacked.

His "credibility" wasn't enhanced by the most vicious and false political ad in all of American history -- the "Daisy Girl and the Countdown".  The ad was a filthy lie, and though it aired only once, it really hurt Goldwater.

Question: how was Goldwater's movement "hijacked"?  I don't know much about that era -- love to know more.

- Alfie

yes, such a dispicable ad. More proof LBJ was a total creep.

And a criminal......you know what he did.

He says he didn't.  Looks like it's your word against his...

- Alfie

His word is as good as useless. LBJ was guilty of intensifying Vietnam, conspiracy to assasinate a president and murder of political rivals. History backs up all the aforementioned facts.

Vietnam I know.  What's this murder of political rivals"?  Never heard that before.

States believes LBJ was responsible for the Kennedy assassination.

and he's 100% right.

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Wow,

BRTD and I agree on something....BiPartisan hate for LBJ. lol

[Alfie]

The Good Senator writes;

Alfie

I apologize I can not provide a link. My source is a documentary that appeared on the History Channel called "The Men who killed Kennedy". The Johnson family raised hell about it and demanded it never to be shown again. Why is it that in his later years LBJ was said to have gone crazy? Guilt? We'll never know I guess.

No problem.

You raise the very issue that makes me feel such sadness for LBJ, and that is his life after his presidency.  The man was destroyed by Vietnam.  He very well could have "gone crazy", or mad, or whatever one calls it.  What a burden, but then, what a sin!  But was it a sin of ill intent, or a less evil sin, a sin of making a poor decision?  Same with Nixon.   The great ones!  They never make it "out of Dodge" intact...

- Alfie
 

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The Good Senator writes;

Alfie

I apologize I can not provide a link. My source is a documentary that appeared on the History Channel called "The Men who killed Kennedy". The Johnson family raised hell about it and demanded it never to be shown again. Why is it that in his later years LBJ was said to have gone crazy? Guilt? We'll never know I guess.

No problem.

You raise the very issue that makes me feel such sadness for LBJ, and that is his life after his presidency.  The man was destroyed by Vietnam.  He very well could have "gone crazy", or mad, or whatever one calls it.  What a burden, but then, what a sin!  But was it a sin of ill intent, or a less evil sin, a sin of making a poor decision?  Same with Nixon.   The great ones!  They never make it "out of Dodge" intact...

- Alfie
 

Very true. Sad to say that if it hadn't been for Watergate, Nixon would be listed as one of the greats, no doubt in my mind about that.

[Alfie]

The Good Senator writes;

Alfie

I apologize I can not provide a link. My source is a documentary that appeared on the History Channel called "The Men who killed Kennedy". The Johnson family raised hell about it and demanded it never to be shown again. Why is it that in his later years LBJ was said to have gone crazy? Guilt? We'll never know I guess.

No problem.

You raise the very issue that makes me feel such sadness for LBJ, and that is his life after his presidency.  The man was destroyed by Vietnam.  He very well could have "gone crazy", or mad, or whatever one calls it.  What a burden, but then, what a sin!  But was it a sin of ill intent, or a less evil sin, a sin of making a poor decision?  Same with Nixon.   The great ones!  They never make it "out of Dodge" intact...

- Alfie
 

Very true. Sad to say that if it hadn't been for Watergate, Nixon would be listed as one of the greats, no doubt in my mind about that.

Um, Message to Senator:  He Still Is.


- Alfie

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The Good Senator writes;

Alfie

I apologize I can not provide a link. My source is a documentary that appeared on the History Channel called "The Men who killed Kennedy". The Johnson family raised hell about it and demanded it never to be shown again. Why is it that in his later years LBJ was said to have gone crazy? Guilt? We'll never know I guess.

No problem.

You raise the very issue that makes me feel such sadness for LBJ, and that is his life after his presidency.  The man was destroyed by Vietnam.  He very well could have "gone crazy", or mad, or whatever one calls it.  What a burden, but then, what a sin!  But was it a sin of ill intent, or a less evil sin, a sin of making a poor decision?  Same with Nixon.   The great ones!  They never make it "out of Dodge" intact...

- Alfie
 

Very true. Sad to say that if it hadn't been for Watergate, Nixon would be listed as one of the greats, no doubt in my mind about that.

Um, Message to Senator:  He Still Is.


- Alfie

Alfie,

I must say I'm shocked. I'm glad to see you say that! He was Tricky Dick no doubt but by todays standards he'd be a Moderate Conservative. Kind of like Clinton but with a (R).

[Judäischen Volksfront]

*bump*

[Gabu]

Gee, something about this looks kind of familiar.