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« on: October 13, 2006, 10:35:02 PM »

I'm sure dazzleman will find a way to blame "nanny state liberals" for this, even though DailyKos is 90% against it.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/13/213824/44
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2006, 11:53:04 PM »

Well technically it is Bill Frist who is too blame.

http://www.downsizedc.org/blog/2006/oct/04/what_congress_inserted

After all, banning Internet gambling is an important part of keeping our ports safe.
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2006, 12:37:44 AM »


After all, banning Internet gambling is an important part of keeping our ports safe.

Exactly.  We need legislative reform which brings these kind of riders to a halt once and for all.
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2006, 12:47:51 AM »


After all, banning Internet gambling is an important part of keeping our ports safe.

Exactly.  We need legislative reform which brings these kind of riders to a halt once and for all.

If Bush had cared, he could have issued another one of his unconstitutional signing statements. Instead he happily signed the bill.

The amendment passed the House 317-93, with almost all of the opposition coming from liberal Democrats, including the most liberal 10.

http://www.progressivepunch.org/members.jsp?member=HI1&search=selectScore&chamber=House&zip=&x=60&y=14
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2006, 10:47:46 AM »

The amendment passed the House 317-93, with almost all of the opposition coming from liberal Democrats, including the most liberal 10.


Of course, the opposition representing less than half of the democrats who voted for the bill as well.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2006, 10:50:59 AM »

Its only a matter of time before a 3rd party pops up which allows money transfers to it, which could then be used for anything...wink wink.

but good for the liberal dems here...at least someone stood for freedom.
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2006, 12:21:36 PM »

or read the law like this:

http://news.com.com/Poker+giant+says+its+exempt+from+gaming+ban/2100-1026_3-6125254.html
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2006, 01:05:16 PM »

The amendment passed the House 317-93, with almost all of the opposition coming from liberal Democrats, including the most liberal 10.


Of course, the opposition representing less than half of the democrats who voted for the bill as well.

True, but liberal Democrats voted soldly against it. The top 10 most liberal Representatives (according to Progressive Punch) all voted no.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2006, 01:06:45 PM »


On the other hand, there's a lot of chance in the stock market.....
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2006, 01:38:50 PM »

The worst law to come out of congress in a long time, as well as the first federal law that's really affected me. Online poker is my primary source of income, and the money transfer site I currently use (firepay) has already been shut down.  The main sites I play at are no longer allowing US wagers, and the main money transfer site  (Neteller) that other players use isn't accessible to me, since I'm still technically a resident of Maryland.
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2006, 01:43:12 PM »

There should be some third party sites popping up soon that'll find some way to circumvent this, but yeah, what a horrible and stupid law.

I wonder what Republican online gamblers think now?
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2006, 04:00:13 PM »

Here's a way to get around it I thought of: Someone charters a "bank" in some weird African country where you can do it for only about a thousand bucks or so. He then gives out accounts in this "bank" to anyone wanting to sign up for internet gambling sites, and and you can transfer your money to it and use that for the sites, just like PayPal. There also are some money transfer methods where it's impossible to trace where the money is going.
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2006, 04:41:39 PM »

So we cant play poker online anymore?
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2006, 04:56:09 PM »

There's no doubt in my mind that this was heavily supported by the brick-and-mortar casinos, who don't want any potential loss of business thanks to online gambling.  Of course, disguising this as a moral values issue shortly before an election is a great tactic, but I do hope that people begin to call out the government for its blatant support of gambling in some areas (horse racing, state-sponsored lotteries, deals with Indian gambling reservations) and its sudden knee-jerk opposition to online gambling.

A horribly fascist law, BTW.
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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2006, 04:57:14 PM »

Unfortunately while Bush signed this mosnsterous creation of Bill Frist...way too many democrats (well, non conservatives in general, regardless of party) supported this.

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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2006, 05:01:14 PM »

The worst law to come out of congress in a long time, as well as the first federal law that's really affected me. Online poker is my primary source of income, and the money transfer site I currently use (firepay) has already been shut down.  The main sites I play at are no longer allowing US wagers, and the main money transfer site  (Neteller) that other players use isn't accessible to me, since I'm still technically a resident of Maryland.

Terrible law: Yes
Worst in a long time: Not even the worst law in the last month, that's the detainee law.
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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2006, 05:37:27 PM »

Does this outlaw betting on Tradesports?
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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2006, 06:07:12 PM »

There's no doubt in my mind that this was heavily supported by the brick-and-mortar casinos, who don't want any potential loss of business thanks to online gambling.

Actually the casinos want online gambling legalized so they can set up their own sites - they want a piece of the pie. Lots of money to be made with online gambling. They still would like the government involved though, but what they want is licensing so they can slap a sticker on the site that says 'licensed by the US government' so they'll be more trustworthy in the eyes of the consumer.
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