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ArthurBranch
mpirner
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2400 on:
October 09, 2004, 04:40:15 pm »
Alright, my map is up! How do I post it?
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Last Edit: October 09, 2004, 04:53:43 pm by mpirner
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muon2
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2401 on:
October 09, 2004, 05:41:20 pm »
Quote from: mpirner on October 09, 2004, 04:40:15 pm
Alright, my map is up! How do I post it?
It is posted in the predictions area. The image is here:
If you quote this message you'll see the link to your map.
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Donovan
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2402 on:
October 10, 2004, 05:01:54 am »
Quote from: muon2 on October 09, 2004, 05:41:20 pm
Quote from: mpirner on October 09, 2004, 04:40:15 pm
Alright, my map is up! How do I post it?
It is posted in the predictions area. The image is here:
If you quote this message you'll see the link to your map.
Quote from: muon2 on October 09, 2004, 05:41:20 pm
Quote from: mpirner on October 09, 2004, 04:40:15 pm
Alright, my map is up! How do I post it?
It is posted in the predictions area. The image is here:
If you quote this message you'll see the link to your map.
DO you seriously think that Kerry is going to lose Oregon, MN, and New Jersey. Bush already pulled funding from NJ and Oregon.
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K. Osmers
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2403 on:
October 10, 2004, 10:12:50 am »
Quote from: elcorazon on September 17, 2004, 12:29:34 pm
I wish Texas was still in Mexico.
We're not all bad...
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ArthurBranch
mpirner
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Bush did not pull funding from OR
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Reply #2404 on:
October 10, 2004, 11:02:48 am »
In fact, he's making a huge swing through there next week. Fact is Gore barely won the state in 2000 and several polls have shown Bush ahead. so why would he pull funding? A simple 5 point win for Bush would easily carry Oregon and Minnesota, and New Jersey will come into his column by less than1 percent.
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Napoleon XIV
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Re:2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2405 on:
October 13, 2004, 12:31:50 am »
Quote from: Boss Tweed on September 25, 2004, 07:33:39 am
New Prediction
332-206...or 336-202, can't remember.
Hey, same as mine!
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Miamiu1027
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Posts: 34286
Re:2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2406 on:
October 14, 2004, 02:10:43 pm »
Quote from: Napoleon XIV on October 13, 2004, 12:31:50 am
Quote from: Boss Tweed on September 25, 2004, 07:33:39 am
New Prediction
332-206...or 336-202, can't remember.
Hey, same as mine!
That was from 3 weeks ago, Kerry has signnificantly closed tha gap since then.
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frenger
Bono
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2407 on:
October 16, 2004, 04:05:16 am »
First time I post here. My prediction:
Bush-272
Kerry-266
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josh_24
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2408 on:
October 19, 2004, 04:13:26 pm »
how do i post my prediction on this forum>??
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StatesRights
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2409 on:
October 20, 2004, 02:49:40 pm »
Updated.
Washington, Michigan, Oregon, WV and New Hampshire are finished.
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elcorazon
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2410 on:
October 20, 2004, 03:00:25 pm »
Quote from: Senator StatesRights on October 20, 2004, 02:49:40 pm
Updated.
Washington, Michigan, Oregon, WV and New Hampshire are finished.
you forgot to fix New Jersey.
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StatesRights
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2411 on:
October 20, 2004, 03:05:15 pm »
Quote from: elcorazon on October 20, 2004, 03:00:25 pm
Quote from: Senator StatesRights on October 20, 2004, 02:49:40 pm
Updated.
Washington, Michigan, Oregon, WV and New Hampshire are finished.
you forgot to fix New Jersey.
New Jersey is my election night suprise.
Allow me to stay disillusioned, ok?
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Platypus
hughento
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2412 on:
October 20, 2004, 10:26:41 pm »
My prediction-the three states that'll really determine it are WI, OH and WI. If Bush wins OH, he wins; if Bush wins NM and WI, he wins; if Bush win OH and NM he wins, if Bush wins OH and WI he wins (4 possibilities).
If Kerry wins Ohio and Wisconsin he wins; if Kerry wins Ohio and New Mexico he wins (2 options).
Therefore, a 66% chance of Bush winning (and I predict NM will go Kerry, WI will go Bush and OH will bve very close-but for Bush)
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muon2
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2413 on:
October 21, 2004, 08:05:24 am »
Quote from: hughento on October 20, 2004, 10:26:41 pm
My prediction-the three states that'll really determine it are WI, OH and WI. If Bush wins OH, he wins; if Bush wins NM and WI, he wins; if Bush win OH and NM he wins, if Bush wins OH and WI he wins (4 possibilities).
If Kerry wins Ohio and Wisconsin he wins; if Kerry wins Ohio and New Mexico he wins (2 options).
Therefore, a 66% chance of Bush winning (and I predict NM will go Kerry, WI will go Bush and OH will bve very close-but for Bush)
Of your four scenarios for Bush, two are redundant. If Bush wins OH, he wins, so in that case it doesn't matter what happens in WI and NM. I would also add IA to the mix, since it can pair with WI just as NM can for a win.
I would amend your analysis to read:
Four states will determine the election in a close race: OH, WI, IA, and NM.
Bush wins in three cases:
1) Win OH
2) Win WI and IA
3) Win WI and NM
Kerry wins in two cases:
1) Win OH and WI
2) Win OH, IA and NM
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MAS117
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2414 on:
October 21, 2004, 08:56:51 pm »
It's so close I can't tell you who will win. If you look at my map, I have Kerry wining the election. Bush will win FL, and Kerry will win PA. Ohio is slightly Kerry now. If Kerry wins Ohio and Iowa, but loses New Mexico, he could have only 269 EV, that also puts Bush with 269 EV. SO CLOSE!
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Miamiu1027
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2415 on:
October 22, 2004, 05:50:49 pm »
Quote from: Senator StatesRights on October 20, 2004, 03:05:15 pm
New Jersey is my election night suprise.
Allow me to stay disillusioned, ok?
I suppose Bush can win NJ, but he won't lose NH and PA simultaneously.
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alcaeus
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2416 on:
October 23, 2004, 09:35:59 am »
Bush is ahead by 3 in NC, which makes NC a tie.
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alcaeus
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2417 on:
October 23, 2004, 09:58:24 am »
Given that challengers historically do better than the polls indicate while the incumbent stays where the polls indicate, Bush will be at 48 to 49 percent of the vote on election day.
Kerry is leading in the battleground states 50 -46.
Predictions for election day:
Surprises: Kerry wins North Carolina and Colorado.
Post election day disputes: Missouri, Colorado, Florida, Nevada, WV, and NJ
Kerry wins OH by 3 and PA by 7.
Bush wins FL by 2
When the votes are counted Kerry gets 313 electoral votes, Bush 225 electoral votes.
None of the challenges from either party to election results will be successful, or be heard by the Supreme Court.
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StatesRights
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2418 on:
October 23, 2004, 04:14:25 pm »
Quote from: alcaeus on October 23, 2004, 09:35:59 am
Bush is ahead by 3 in NC, which makes NC a tie.
NC is out of play. Bush by 6% at least.
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alcaeus
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2419 on:
October 23, 2004, 04:49:43 pm »
Survey USA poll this past week. NC Bush 50 Kerry 47.
North Carolina is similar to VA in this election, except without as much of a military vote. It's a world apart from South Carolina.
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StatesRights
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2420 on:
October 23, 2004, 05:00:56 pm »
Quote from: alcaeus on October 23, 2004, 04:49:43 pm
Survey USA poll this past week. NC Bush 50 Kerry 47.
North Carolina is similar to VA in this election, except without as much of a military vote. It's a world apart from South Carolina.
Doubt it will end that close. Kerry has never lead in any poll in N.Carolina.
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Miamiu1027
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2421 on:
October 23, 2004, 06:29:28 pm »
Bush 286
Kerry 252
Minnesota and NH are basically ties.
If Kerry gains Wisconsin and NM, and puts it at 271-267, a Colorado legal struggle likely decides the election.
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josh_24
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2422 on:
October 23, 2004, 08:53:11 pm »
Poll: Who do you think will win the 2004 Presidential Election? George W. Bush or John F. Kerry?
Then: Who do you want to win the 2004 Presidential Election?
please answer my poll.
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Vasall des Midas
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2423 on:
October 24, 2004, 01:59:31 pm »
Quote from: josh_24 on October 23, 2004, 08:53:11 pm
Poll: Who do you think will win the 2004 Presidential Election? George W. Bush or John F. Kerry?
Then: Who do you want to win the 2004 Presidential Election?
please answer my poll.
I think you'll see answers galore around here without people directly answering you.
Are you in any way related to josh_22?
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Re: 2004 User Predictions - Discussion
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Reply #2424 on:
October 25, 2004, 08:35:15 am »
How's this?
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