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« on: June 20, 2004, 04:45:03 PM »

would bullmoose win every state?
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2004, 04:55:49 PM »

You'd win Massachusetts.
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2004, 05:01:49 PM »

If you were running as Dem and Rep respectively, you would probably win DC still, or at least you'd have a chance. All others I see going to Bullmoose.
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2004, 09:05:09 PM »


Probably.  The south would hate him, but there really is no other option.
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2004, 09:12:30 PM »

Bah.   I should remind you that several counties in Tennessee went for TR!  Tennesseans for Bullmoose!
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2004, 09:22:41 PM »

This is what the map would look like -

Red- BRTD - 95
Blue - Bullmoose - 344
Green- Me as a third party Smiley - 99

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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2004, 09:58:54 PM »

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          L__________/---That looks about right, actually
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2004, 10:04:15 PM »

Not if Bandit ran as an independent. He'd garner 80-90% of the Kentucky vote.
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2004, 10:05:26 PM »

Not if Bandit ran as an independent. He'd garner 80-90% of the Kentucky vote.

Yeah, 80-90% of the nutter ward.
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2004, 11:12:13 PM »

Oklahoma, Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming would all be close for whoever that right third party will be.
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2004, 11:14:24 PM »

Oklahoma, Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming would all be close for whoever that right third party will be.

I would be the third party Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2004, 11:16:34 PM »

I would give bullmoose NJ and CT. Heck, I this would eb a tough one even for me.
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2004, 08:19:22 AM »

How would BRTD win Minnesota?
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2004, 10:33:22 AM »


Home state advantage.
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2004, 10:43:25 AM »


Wouldn't nearly be enough
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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2004, 11:05:42 AM »
« Edited: June 21, 2004, 11:07:30 AM by Lewis Trondheim »

This is what the map would look like -

Red- BRTD - 95
Blue - Bullmoose - 344
Green- Me as a third party Smiley - 99


Subtract Florida  and Arkansas, and possibly Georgia and Lousiana as well. Add Oklahoma.

Edit: And give Maine, New Jersey and Connecticut to Bull as well.
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2004, 11:07:03 AM »

In a straight head to head?



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I think he'd narrowly carry maryland...states like Maine, Iowa, Wisconsin are very close either way. Southern States as Boss said would pick me as the slightly lesser of two evils.

A 3 Way Matchup with States Rights (grey)



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Statesrights-45

Would look more similar to 1968 with statesrights siphoning some of the bullmoose is the lesser of two evils votes away from me...carrying
a  bunch of the conservative southern states while eating away at my margin of victory in others across the country. BRTD benefits here coming close in Texas some of the plains states (Kansas) while winning states that went narrowly to me the last time.
Florida, Georgia, NC, and VA narrowly go to me since I better represent the more populous suburbs and growing areas.

I think.

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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2004, 12:51:02 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2004, 02:53:07 PM »

BRTD would do better than anyone has predicted IMHO.

I think in the popular vote he'd do better than the electoral college shows.

But when a fiscal/social Leftist goes against a fiscal center rightist and a social leftist (probably slightly less lefty, but still lefty)

Most areas of the spectrum will probably find me closer than BRTD...if only slightly...

but yeah I don't see this as a reagan/mondale or nixon/mcgovern....probably Bush/Dukakis...closer than the EC and could have gone the other way given a small swing of votes.
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