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« on: October 16, 2006, 09:10:41 PM »
« edited: October 16, 2006, 09:12:56 PM by nickshepDEM »

If this is a dupe let me know.

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WASHINGTON Senior Republican leaders have concluded that Senator Mike DeWine of Ohio, a pivotal state in this year's fierce midterm election battles, is likely to be heading for defeat and are moving to reduce financial support for his race and divert party money to other embattled Republican senators, party officials said.
 
The decision to effectively write off DeWine's seat, after a series of internal Republican polls showed him falling behind his Democratic challenger, is part of a fluid series of choices by top leaders in both parties as they set the strategic framework of the campaign's final three weeks, signaling, by where they are spending television money and other resources, the Senate and House races where they believe they have the best chances of success.
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Republicans noted that DeWine, in addition to having a sizable financial advantage, was a well-liked figure in Ohio who handily won his first two terms in the Senate and still had enough time to recover, even though recent internal party polls showed him lagging badly.
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2006, 09:11:27 PM »

already been posted

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=47065.0
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2006, 09:12:34 PM »

It also might be lies from the dishonest Republican noise machine.
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2006, 09:13:41 PM »

This decision makes sense.

The Republicans' best bet would be to completely concede Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Montana and focus on Virginia, Tennessee, and Missouri. If they can at least hold the Senate, I guess they can console themselves that they didn't lose quite as badly as the Democrats did in 1994.
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2006, 09:21:37 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2006, 09:23:22 PM by Quincy »

This was already posted yesterday and the Republicans are still buying air time and saying they fully back the incumbant. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/blog/2006/10/more_dewine_push_back.html This is the article that contadicts this.
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2006, 09:23:23 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2006, 09:24:56 PM by jfern »

This was already posted yesterday and the Republicans are still buying air time and saying they fully back the incumbant.

Yeah, it might just be GOP propaganda from this "reporter" named Adam Nagourney. If the NY Times was liberal, they would have fired his sorry ass long ago.

Really, the right-wing noise machine / so called media isn't past outright lying for whatever advantage. Don't trust these sh**theads.
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2006, 09:24:25 PM »

This story is reported by the NY Times who have a liberal bias. I think that DeWine can still win.
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2006, 09:36:46 PM »

OH maybe...PA, MT, and RI at this point definitely.

They are wise to pour a hoopla of $$$ to MO, TN, and VA. I tihnk the GOP will hold onto all three of these
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2006, 09:37:40 PM »

This was already posted yesterday and the Republicans are still buying air time and saying they fully back the incumbant. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/blog/2006/10/more_dewine_push_back.html This is the article that contadicts this.

The NY Times story was accurate and true - the $1 million ad buy the RNC has for Dewine in Ohio is nothing compared to what they had planned to spend on his behalf. They are definitely pulling back resources from Dewine to spend in Virginia, and they have largely given up hopes of Dewine being reelected, maybe just not completely.

I'll never get over the large number of conspiracy-theorists on this forum. What do you think is more likely guys?

1) The RNC and NRSC saw that Brown has lead or tied in the last 20 polls (yes - TWENTY - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2006/senate/oh/ohio_senate_race-2.html#polls) and realized that Dewine's chances are slim to none, or

2) This is all a hoax by the republicans?

Gimme a break. The RNC and NRSC have thrown $6 million at this race already and Brown's lead has actually INCREASED. Stop it with these silly 'republican lies' theories.
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2006, 09:51:34 PM »

The republicans do plan to still back their senator, they may not spend money but they still support him that is all I was saying.
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2006, 09:51:50 PM »

This decision makes sense.

The Republicans' best bet would be to completely concede Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Montana and focus on Virginia, Tennessee, and Missouri. If they can at least hold the Senate, I guess they can console themselves that they didn't lose quite as badly as the Democrats did in 1994.


If they were going to go with this strategy of concession in order to focus on just a few seats to keep the majority, I say that they'd give up on Pennsylvania, Montana, Rhode Island, Ohio and Tennessee. We would also need to move our people out of New Jersey, Minnesota and Maryland (if anyone is even left in those states especially the latter two). They should then spend money and send their ground team just to Virginia and Missouri.
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2006, 09:54:47 PM »

This was already posted yesterday and the Republicans are still buying air time and saying they fully back the incumbant. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/blog/2006/10/more_dewine_push_back.html This is the article that contadicts this.

The NY Times story was accurate and true - the $1 million ad buy the RNC has for Dewine in Ohio is nothing compared to what they had planned to spend on his behalf. They are definitely pulling back resources from Dewine to spend in Virginia, and they have largely given up hopes of Dewine being reelected, maybe just not completely.

I'll never get over the large number of conspiracy-theorists on this forum. What do you think is more likely guys?

1) The RNC and NRSC saw that Brown has lead or tied in the last 20 polls (yes - TWENTY - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2006/senate/oh/ohio_senate_race-2.html#polls) and realized that Dewine's chances are slim to none, or

2) This is all a hoax by the republicans?

Gimme a break. The RNC and NRSC have thrown $6 million at this race already and Brown's lead has actually INCREASED. Stop it with these silly 'republican lies' theories.

How can you get an objective opinion by the NYTimes who have a distinct liberal bias? All I was saying was that they may not by airtime for Mike dewine but they fully back him in his reelection bid.
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2006, 10:03:00 PM »

LOL - Who ever said that they are not backing him?

Furthermore, what exactly qualifies as "backing" soemone if you don't support them financially? Of course they "back" him - he's the republican candidate! But it is nothing more then mere lip service and feigned confidence to "back" someone while pulling out millions of dollars in ads on that candidate's behalf.
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2006, 10:11:21 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2006, 10:45:07 PM by Quincy »

The bottom line is that the republicans think that Mike DeWine can win, but less so now. But fully support him.
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2006, 12:10:04 AM »

If the GOP cuts off Mike Dewine and uses the resources somewhere else WHERE WILL THAT BE???

Missouri and Tennessee are obvious choices, but the races in other key states are in the same league as Ohio.
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2006, 12:19:48 AM »

This decision makes sense.

The Republicans' best bet would be to completely concede Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Montana and focus on Virginia, Tennessee, and Missouri. If they can at least hold the Senate, I guess they can console themselves that they didn't lose quite as badly as the Democrats did in 1994.


If they were going to go with this strategy of concession in order to focus on just a few seats to keep the majority, I say that they'd give up on Pennsylvania, Montana, Rhode Island, Ohio and Tennessee. We would also need to move our people out of New Jersey, Minnesota and Maryland (if anyone is even left in those states especially the latter two). They should then spend money and send their ground team just to Virginia and Missouri.

It'd be very stupid to pull out of Tennessee. But I agree the only three states the GOP should be focusing on now are Tennessee, Missouri and Virginia.

Funny that you admit now that the GOP has lost all pick up opportunities, since New Jersey was the last one remaining and it looks like even that one is slipping away now. As bad as the Democrats have had it, we've never had to deal with a 4 seat loss as a BEST case scenario in recent years at least.
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2006, 12:39:44 AM »

If the GOP cuts off Mike Dewine and uses the resources somewhere else WHERE WILL THAT BE???



Virginia.
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2006, 01:49:31 AM »

2) This is all a hoax by the republicans?

Gimme a break. The RNC and NRSC have thrown $6 million at this race already and Brown's lead has actually INCREASED. Stop it with these silly 'republican lies' theories.

I think part of the reason we assume this is that it is hard to imagine the Republicans having any serious money limitations.
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2006, 01:51:30 AM »

This decision makes sense.

The Republicans' best bet would be to completely concede Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Montana and focus on Virginia, Tennessee, and Missouri. If they can at least hold the Senate, I guess they can console themselves that they didn't lose quite as badly as the Democrats did in 1994.


If they were going to go with this strategy of concession in order to focus on just a few seats to keep the majority, I say that they'd give up on Pennsylvania, Montana, Rhode Island, Ohio and Tennessee. We would also need to move our people out of New Jersey, Minnesota and Maryland (if anyone is even left in those states especially the latter two). They should then spend money and send their ground team just to Virginia and Missouri.

It'd be very stupid to pull out of Tennessee. But I agree the only three states the GOP should be focusing on now are Tennessee, Missouri and Virginia.

BRTD is correct, it would be ridiculous to pull out of Tennessee - their opponent is BLACK for gosh sakes.  They should be able to defeat him with their usual racist tactics.
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2006, 12:28:33 PM »

FYI, it was reported was by the FEC today that the DSCC, which still reports its expenditures to the FEC by Pony Express (ie by hand, through paper), purchased another $850,000 worth of airtime in the Ohio Senate race on 10/13 (last Friday).
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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2006, 01:16:24 PM »

The New York Times has been printing a series of these articles lately... obviously meant to demoralize the GOP base in these states.  They said the RNC was pulling out on Santorum... anything but, acctually, since they are giving us more resources now.
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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2006, 01:23:39 PM »

The New York Times has been printing a series of these articles lately... obviously meant to demoralize the GOP base in these states.  They said the RNC was pulling out on Santorum... anything but, acctually, since they are giving us more resources now.

The RNC is spending more on Santorum? Man, that is great news. The more money they flush down the toilet there, the less they have to spend on the other Senate races.
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