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« on: November 03, 2006, 06:11:49 PM »
« edited: November 03, 2006, 06:22:02 PM by Quincy »

New Poll: Maryland Senator by Survey USA on 2006-11-02

Summary: D: 47%, R: 47%, U: 4%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2006, 06:15:04 PM »

No it's not. Survey USA just sucks.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2006, 07:06:25 PM »

It has always been a tie to them with virtually no movement. Cardin will win by at least 5%.
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2006, 07:09:22 PM »

You know, while I'd like Cardin to win, I almost wouldn't mind if the MD Democrats did badly this year. Parties that take their base for granted need to be taught a lesson.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2006, 07:11:47 PM »

You know, while I'd like Cardin to win, I almost wouldn't mind if the MD Democrats did badly this year. Parties that take their base for granted need to be taught a lesson.

We certainly aren't going to be taking the African-American base for granted after this year, no matter what happens. I'm reasonably confident about that-- at least it's affected my thinking.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2006, 07:12:16 PM »

You know, while I'd like Cardin to win, I almost wouldn't mind if the MD Democrats did badly this year. Parties that take their base for granted need to be taught a lesson.

Yeah but Steele blows.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2006, 07:29:18 PM »

You know, while I'd like Cardin to win, I almost wouldn't mind if the MD Democrats did badly this year. Parties that take their base for granted need to be taught a lesson.
They havent taken their base for granted. The only people who have been taken for granted are, across the nation, evangelicals and middle class people who were duped to vote republican. Blacks arent being taken for granted. How is this?
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2006, 07:45:50 PM »

You know, while I'd like Cardin to win, I almost wouldn't mind if the MD Democrats did badly this year. Parties that take their base for granted need to be taught a lesson.
They havent taken their base for granted. The only people who have been taken for granted are, across the nation, evangelicals and middle class people who were duped to vote republican. Blacks arent being taken for granted. How is this?

Unfortunately, up until this point, we have. Look at the recent Democratic nominations for Senate, Governor, Lt. Governor, and lower level offices. They don't reflect, proportionally, the face of the Democratic party in our state. We are so afraid that if we nominate a black, whites won't for them, that we've simply stopped nominating blacks. But I really think the events of this election cycle have taken things to a head and been a huge wake-up call to the party. We'll need to do better in nominating people who reflect the diversity of this state. Things are definitely going to change from now on- at least in my view. Personally, I'm very serious about that. In the meantime, I really hope Cardin just pulls it off this year so we don't have a Bushbot for Senator.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2006, 08:33:40 PM »

You know, while I'd like Cardin to win, I almost wouldn't mind if the MD Democrats did badly this year. Parties that take their base for granted need to be taught a lesson.
They havent taken their base for granted. The only people who have been taken for granted are, across the nation, evangelicals and middle class people who were duped to vote republican. Blacks arent being taken for granted. How is this?

Unfortunately, up until this point, we have. Look at the recent Democratic nominations for Senate, Governor, Lt. Governor, and lower level offices. They don't reflect, proportionally, the face of the Democratic party in our state. We are so afraid that if we nominate a black, whites won't for them, that we've simply stopped nominating blacks. But I really think the events of this election cycle have taken things to a head and been a huge wake-up call to the party. We'll need to do better in nominating people who reflect the diversity of this state. Things are definitely going to change from now on- at least in my view. Personally, I'm very serious about that. In the meantime, I really hope Cardin just pulls it off this year so we don't have a Bushbot for Senator.
That's not taking blacks for granted. I'm sure theres a number of blacks in the legislature which i will look up in a bit. Also, its about who represents their interests in whether or not one is taking them for granted and Cardin represents there interests more then Steele.
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2006, 09:09:56 PM »

Black State Senators:

NATHANIEL J. McFADDEN -Majority Leader

LISA A. GLADDEN - Assistant Deputy Majority Whip

GWENDOLYN T. BRITT

JOAN CARTER CONWAY

ULYSSES CURRIE

NATHANIEL EXUM

RALPH M. HUGHES

VERNA L. JONES

DELORES GOODWIN KELLEY

GLORIA GARY LAWLAH

21.27% of Senators of whom all are democrats, 0 black republican senators
Total black population of Maryland - 30%
31.25% of Dem senators are black

House of Delegates:

OBIE PATTERSON - Assistant Majority Leader
EMMETT C. BURNS, JR. - Deputy Majority Whip
TAWANNA P. GAINES -  Deputy Majority Whip
KEITH E. HAYNES -  Deputy Majority Whip
MARVIN E. HOLMES, JR -  Deputy Majority Whip
SHIRLEY NATHAN-PULLIAM -  Deputy Majority Whip
MICHAEL L. VAUGHN - Deputy Majority Whip
JOANNE C. BENSON
TALMADGE BRANCH
RUDOLPH C. CANE
JILL P. CARTER
CLARENCE DAVIS
DERECK E. DAVIS
MARSHALL T. GOODWIN
MELONY GHEE GRIFFITH
HATTIE N. HARRISON
CAROLYN J. B. HOWARD
ADRIENNE A. JONES
DARRYL A. KELLEY
RUTH M. KIRK
SALIMA SILER MARRIOTT
GARETH E. MURRAY
NATHANIEL T. OAKS
JEFFREY A. PAIGE
ROSETTA C. PARKER
CATHERINE E. PUGH
HERMAN L. TAYLOR Jr.
VERONICA L. TURNER

28.57% of Dems are black
19.14% of House of Delegates are black dems
0 are republicans

The proportions of blacks in the democratic caucus in Maryland is around the black population of Maryland for both chambers.








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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2006, 10:29:14 PM »

SurveyUSA isn't M-D but they also aren't Zogby. The polls on this race have hardly been unified, I see no objective reason to assume SUSA just has this one totally wrong.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2006, 10:37:15 PM »

SurveyUSA isn't M-D but they also aren't Zogby. The polls on this race have hardly been unified, I see no objective reason to assume SUSA just has this one totally wrong.

Well it disagrees with every other poll out there. That could be a good reason.
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2006, 10:39:19 PM »

SurveyUSA isn't M-D but they also aren't Zogby. The polls on this race have hardly been unified, I see no objective reason to assume SUSA just has this one totally wrong.

Look at Survey USA's past polls in Maryland.  In nearly every single case, they gave Steele around 5 to 7 more points than any other pollster did in that same time period.
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2006, 10:51:17 PM »

Right, but that doesn't make them wrong. Rarely are all the polls wrong, but sometimes a lot of them are.
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2006, 12:57:34 AM »
« Edited: November 04, 2006, 01:04:07 AM by thefactor »

The apartheid supporter is promoting Steele's chances. How cute. Awww.
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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2006, 01:13:18 AM »

Personally, I'm very serious about that. In the meantime, I really hope Cardin just pulls it off this year so we don't have a Bushbot for Senator.

A Bushbot who doesn't care for Rumsfeld?
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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2006, 01:14:13 AM »

I'm not supporting Steele, by any means, but it does look like the race has tightened from recent polling.  Is the polling right??  We'll know pretty damn soon; but I hope that we don't lose control of the senate based on Maryland, a state that should have been as safe as Minnesota.

Would Mfume be doing better at this point??  I think he ran a great primary race on very little money--what could he have done were he in the general election instead of Cardin??

And on a related tangent, I think it's past time that Maryland reabsorbed DC.  I think the original constitutional intent of having the federal government in it's own district is now arcane.  How would the merger of DC back into Maryland affect politics on the state level???
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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2006, 03:22:08 AM »

The apartheid supporter is promoting Steele's chances. How cute. Awww.

Don't try to understand my thinking. It's just too far beyond you.
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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2006, 03:46:07 AM »

Personally, I'm very serious about that. In the meantime, I really hope Cardin just pulls it off this year so we don't have a Bushbot for Senator.

A Bushbot who doesn't care for Rumsfeld?

Steele's bottom line comes down to supporting Bush's decision to keep Rumsfeld till the end of his term, though he's of course spinning this issue like a dreidel. Cardin on the other hand has said Rumsfeld should resign.

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