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Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
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http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/election/article/0,1406,KNS_630_5119238,00.html
fifty to thirty eight.
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Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
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November 05, 2006, 01:18:42 am »
Ford, Ford, Ford. Next time try running with some fresh ideas instead of recycled Republican ones. It is quite shocking that Corker is going to win a landslide though.
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Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
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Great job at winning elections, DLC.
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poughies
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Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
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not like Tester is doing great either! He should be wayyyy up. And he had a lot more to work with.
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Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
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Well at least Ford gave it a good run and forced the RSCC to pump cash here instead of MO and VA.
Hopefully he has a future later. Like someone else said, maybe mayor of Memphis.
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Quote from: poughies on November 05, 2006, 01:26:37 am
not like Tester is doing great either! He should be wayyyy up. And he had a lot more to work with.
Montana is more Republican than TN and Tester still has a better than 50% chance of winning. Ford has about a 10% chance now.
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poughies
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Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
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And just one other thing, what about Casey.... he ain't a liberal and he seems to do pretty well. Look, I personally really like Jon Tester... but the party should be open to all.
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Quote from: poughies on November 05, 2006, 01:46:19 am
And just one other thing, what about Casey.... he ain't a liberal and he seems to do pretty well. Look, I personally really like Jon Tester... but the party should be open to all.
Of course Casey is doing well, look who he is running against.
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Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
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Quote from: Eraserhead on November 05, 2006, 01:45:46 am
Quote from: poughies on November 05, 2006, 01:26:37 am
not like Tester is doing great either! He should be wayyyy up. And he had a lot more to work with.
Montana is more Republican than TN and Tester still has a better than 50% chance of winning. Ford has about a 10% chance now.
Tradesports has
TN 16.8%
MT 63.5%
Of course they may not have fully priced in the latest polls.
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Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
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Quote from: jfern on November 05, 2006, 01:48:47 am
Quote from: Eraserhead on November 05, 2006, 01:45:46 am
Quote from: poughies on November 05, 2006, 01:26:37 am
not like Tester is doing great either! He should be wayyyy up. And he had a lot more to work with.
Montana is more Republican than TN and Tester still has a better than 50% chance of winning. Ford has about a 10% chance now.
Tradesports has
TN 16.8%
MT 63.5%
Of course they may not have fully priced in the latest polls.
I wasn't going by Tradesports here but that basically backs me up anyway.
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Adlai Stevenson
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Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
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November 05, 2006, 05:15:28 am »
What happened to Ford? He was doing so well and admittedly Corker's campaign was in a desultory state at one stage. I don't care, the DSCC did force the Republicans to spend more money here than they would have liked.
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Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
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Montana isn't really much more Republican than Tennesse. Both have Democratic Governors, both have one Democratic House of Congress (Montana then has one tied, Tennessee one GOP). Montana has a Republican House Rep, Tennessee has 6-5 to the Democrats, Tennessee has two Republican senators and Montana has one from each party.
It's true that Bush won Montana by 20% and Tennessee by 14%, by even so the difference isn't THAT big. Finally, Montana seems to be trending Democrat while Tennessee is going in the other direction.
But I admit that all that said, Ford should be doing better than he is.
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Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
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Maybe the Democrats should try a candidate
not
from Memphis and
not
with that bloody surname in future.
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Montana is certainly a less
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state than Tennessee. Whether it's more Republican or not, depends on how thee measures things.
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Ford will still pull this out, don't worry.
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Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
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November 05, 2006, 09:36:59 am »
Yes, Ford is done.
I'm really not sure what caused such a dramatic collapse so quick. I always thought Corker would pull it out in the end, but that it would be within 2%.
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Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
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November 05, 2006, 09:38:30 am »
Ah well... he's young a still has a long carrer ahead of him, I still think (even if it's Mason-Dixon) this poll seems an oddly wide lead for Corker, at the moment I'd have him winning by 2-4 points... and going on to be a pretty non-descript Senator.
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I could care less if Ford loses.
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Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
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Aw, I was hoping he would win...
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Quote from: TheresNoMoney on November 05, 2006, 09:36:59 am
Yes, Ford is done.
I'm really not sure what caused such a dramatic collapse so quick. I always thought Corker would pull it out in the end, but that it would be within 2%.
I had the same thought, given the nature of the race in the last month and a half, for Ford to drop through the floor so suddenly is very odd. Which is why I think anything with Ford not within 5 is not right.
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Quote from: jfern on November 05, 2006, 01:25:27 am
Great job at winning elections, DLC.
Quote from: Al the Red President on November 05, 2006, 06:36:32 am
Maybe the Democrats should try a candidate
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from Memphis and
not
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Oh, stop. He did fine. This race wasn't really winable and he made people believe for a few weeks. He did a nice job.
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Quote from: © Boss Tweed on November 05, 2006, 12:23:59 pm
Quote from: jfern on November 05, 2006, 01:25:27 am
Great job at winning elections, DLC.
Quote from: Al the Red President on November 05, 2006, 06:36:32 am
Maybe the Democrats should try a candidate
not
from Memphis and
not
with that bloody surname in future.
Oh, stop. He did fine. This race wasn't really winable and he made people believe for a few weeks. He did a nice job.
This race could have been winnable with a white moderate who doesnt come from a corrupt family and that grew up in Tennessee.
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Quote from: conan on November 05, 2006, 12:32:32 pm
This race could have been winnable with a white moderate who doesnt come from a corrupt family and that grew up in Tennessee.
Ford was your best choice (along with some of the white moderate Congressmen--but their open seat would go to the GOP). Against another candidate, Corker would be leading by at least 10 points all year.
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Quote from: jfern on November 05, 2006, 01:25:27 am
Great job at winning elections, DLC.
yes obviously a jed lamont dailykos liberal would have a much better chance at winning in tn than a moderate.
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Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
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November 05, 2006, 01:33:56 pm »
Why are people, especially Democrats, tearing Ford apart? This is one poll in any case I find it hard to believe Ford is at just 38%. He has been around the 43%-47% since around September according to most polls. And at one stage Corker and the state GOP were really bleeding; Ford has run a very effective campaign. I still think Corker will win but by around 51%-52% to Ford's 47%-48% and incidentally I don't think this is the last we have heard of Harold Ford. Maybe in a future Democratic administration he would make a good Attorney General.
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