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« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2003, 06:08:19 pm »
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Economic (Left/Right): +3.75
Social (Libertarian/Authoritarian):-6.56


Dunno if there are many Republicans that score in this region.
You are more of a libertarian than most Republicans, and most Americans, for that matter.  You would be called a moderate conservative libertarian.
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« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2003, 06:33:53 pm »
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Bullmoose - that's impressive!!!  Might I interest you in a membership in the Republican Liberty Caucus, a group for libertarian-Republicans?  I'm a member of both that group and the Bull Moose Republicans which reflects my moderate interests.  Both groups have their probs though -- RLC has some "McClintockites" that are only libertarian-Republicans because of their extreme economic conservatism, and BMR supports campaign finance deform.
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« Reply #52 on: December 26, 2003, 08:27:48 pm »
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My results:
Green Party 96%
Natural Law Party 76%
Democratic Party 68%
Reform Party 64%
Republican Party 32%
Libertarian Party 28%
Constitution Party 20%
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« Reply #53 on: December 26, 2003, 10:31:03 pm »
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Another thing that seems screwy on the test is that it is almost impossible to have a very low score for any party. I mean, migrendel, do you really think that you agree with 20% of the Constitution party's platform, for example? Or 32% of the Republican agenda?
This seems true for a lot of people, no matter what you can't get a really really low score for any party...
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« Reply #54 on: December 26, 2003, 10:39:44 pm »
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Another thing that seems screwy on the test is that it is almost impossible to have a very low score for any party. I mean, migrendel, do you really think that you agree with 20% of the Constitution party's platform, for example? Or 32% of the Republican agenda?
This seems true for a lot of people, no matter what you can't get a really really low score for any party...
Good point.
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« Reply #55 on: December 26, 2003, 11:10:06 pm »
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Another thing that seems screwy on the test is that it is almost impossible to have a very low score for any party. I mean, migrendel, do you really think that you agree with 20% of the Constitution party's platform, for example? Or 32% of the Republican agenda?
This seems true for a lot of people, no matter what you can't get a really really low score for any party...

But it shows pretty perfectly which ones he does agree with the most.  migrendel's results, imo, turned out to be what I would have imagined them to be.
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« Reply #56 on: December 27, 2003, 03:26:37 am »
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Agreed.  Overall the test is pretty accurate, but it just seems like the scores are too high for the parties you disagree strongly with. I suppose that's no big deal though.
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« Reply #57 on: December 27, 2003, 04:48:09 am »
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Politopia summary of me:

"West-You are a Westerner-a civil libertarian-which means that you advocate a diminished role for the government in the personal realm. You are more or less pleased the government's role in the economic realm. "

Interesting quiz, if nothing else.



I ended up in Centerville - close to GWB, Al Gore, Jesse Jackson, Rush Limbaugh, Ayn Rand, and not that far from Stalin and Hitler(!). I feel uninteresting...
It is hard though as a non-american to decide on a lot of systems that I feel I know too little about.
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« Reply #58 on: December 27, 2003, 04:51:28 am »
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Agreed.  Overall the test is pretty accurate, but it just seems like the scores are too high for the parties you disagree strongly with. I suppose that's no big deal though.

Every "agreement with political parties test" I have ever done gives these results. You tend to agree on uncontroversial issues with a lot of different parties. I have done these tests in Sweden, and I think the recommendation then was to not vote for a party if you scored less than 80-90% similarity (which I did on all 7. My highest score here was 60%). So if you have less than 75% you are not really at home in that party.
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« Reply #59 on: December 27, 2003, 11:00:50 am »

Agreed.  Overall the test is pretty accurate, but it just seems like the scores are too high for the parties you disagree strongly with. I suppose that's no big deal though.
So, according to Gustaf, We shouldn't vote in any party because we're both at less than 75% support for any party. I'm more Green? I never thought of myself that way. You're right, an answer to just one or two questions shouldn't ostracize anyone from their particular party or affect the way we vote.
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« Reply #60 on: December 27, 2003, 02:16:36 pm »
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Agreed.  Overall the test is pretty accurate, but it just seems like the scores are too high for the parties you disagree strongly with. I suppose that's no big deal though.
So, according to Gustaf, We shouldn't vote in any party because we're both at less than 75% support for any party. I'm more Green? I never thought of myself that way. You're right, an answer to just one or two questions shouldn't ostracize anyone from their particular party or affect the way we vote.

I'm not saying you shouldn't vote for it, just that you are not really in total agreement, it isn't a clear cut choice. I intend to vote for a party in every future election I participate in, despite the fact that I don't expect to like any of them. But you have to make a decision and vote for something and then you have to take the bad with the good. I trust that is not an unfamiliar concept for you, especially as a centrist?
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« Reply #61 on: December 27, 2003, 02:26:26 pm »
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Gustaf, there is left and right in every party.  You have the Blue Dogs at the right of the Democratic party, like Lieberman, for example.  You also have the socialist left in the Democratic Party, like Kucinich or Barbara Lee.  The Republicans have the Main Street partnership, such as Colin Powell, the traditional right-wing conservative, like Frist,, and the Christian Right, such as the Christian Coalition and Lott or Ashcroft.  So no candidate realy fully agrees with his/her party's platform.
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« Reply #62 on: December 27, 2003, 02:49:12 pm »

Agreed.  Overall the test is pretty accurate, but it just seems like the scores are too high for the parties you disagree strongly with. I suppose that's no big deal though.
So, according to Gustaf, We shouldn't vote in any party because we're both at less than 75% support for any party. I'm more Green? I never thought of myself that way. You're right, an answer to just one or two questions shouldn't ostracize anyone from their particular party or affect the way we vote.

I'm not saying you shouldn't vote for it, just that you are not really in total agreement, it isn't a clear cut choice. I intend to vote for a party in every future election I participate in, despite the fact that I don't expect to like any of them. But you have to make a decision and vote for something and then you have to take the bad with the good. I trust that is not an unfamiliar concept for you, especially as a centrist?
Thanks for clearing that up.
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« Reply #63 on: December 27, 2003, 04:28:01 pm »
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Gustaf, there is left and right in every party.  You have the Blue Dogs at the right of the Democratic party, like Lieberman, for example.  You also have the socialist left in the Democratic Party, like Kucinich or Barbara Lee.  The Republicans have the Main Street partnership, such as Colin Powell, the traditional right-wing conservative, like Frist,, and the Christian Right, such as the Christian Coalition and Lott or Ashcroft.  So no candidate realy fully agrees with his/her party's platform.

I know there is a left and right in every party? We do have parties around here as well, you know. But I would not registrate as member of a party or run for public office for a party if I did not feel that I could agree with the vast majority of core beliefs. Now you might think differently, but I thought you would at least be able to see my point? Occasionally, individual politicians disagreeing on core issues are accused of betraying their personal beliefs in order to maintain their political careers, at least in Sweden.

Wait a minute. I just realised why we're having this discussion. It's a cultural difference, since you have FPTP and I live in a country with PP. Now, over here politicians aren't really allowed to voice other opinions than that of their party, at least not publicly. I realise that it's different in the US (or the UK for that matter).  So if I had grown up in the US I might have shared your view.  
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« Reply #64 on: December 27, 2003, 05:01:12 pm »
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Here parties have only a very limited direct influence on policy - just a platform that is modified at each convention that its members and officials are not required to sign on to or even agree with.
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« Reply #65 on: December 28, 2003, 07:12:09 am »
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Here parties have only a very limited direct influence on policy - just a platform that is modified at each convention that its members and officials are not required to sign on to or even agree with.

Yeah, I know, I just wasn't thinking about hoe the differences impacted our views on party alignment. In a proportional system politicians have to their answer to the party, not the voters, since they aren't directly elected. We vote for parties and then the parties pick their MPs. This is being modified and we are moving towards a more person-orientated system, but that will probably take some time.
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« Reply #66 on: December 28, 2003, 10:34:18 am »
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Sorry, Nym90, that I took so long to answer your question. I do think that 20% for the Constitution Party is a bit high for me. The reason could be because rather than comparing a person to a party platform down to the issue, it compares a person to a selection of issues, and that might artificially inflate the score. The Constitution Party stands for some fairly fervent conservative views, and it is my opinion that the website chose some of the more moderately conservative stands of the party to represent it.
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« Reply #67 on: December 28, 2003, 10:44:40 am »
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Sorry, Nym90, that I took so long to answer your question. I do think that 20% for the Constitution Party is a bit high for me. The reason could be because rather than comparing a person to a party platform down to the issue, it compares a person to a selection of issues, and that might artificially inflate the score. The Constitution Party stands for some fairly fervent conservative views, and it is my opinion that the website chose some of the more moderately conservative stands of the party to represent it.

What you have to remember is that the site only says increase or decrease, not by how much. So if say you want to decrease taxes you will agree as much with those who want to cut them moderately as with those who want to remove it altogether. That probably goes a long way to explain the high numbers with this particular test.
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« Reply #68 on: December 28, 2003, 11:00:19 am »

Sorry, Nym90, that I took so long to answer your question. I do think that 20% for the Constitution Party is a bit high for me. The reason could be because rather than comparing a person to a party platform down to the issue, it compares a person to a selection of issues, and that might artificially inflate the score. The Constitution Party stands for some fairly fervent conservative views, and it is my opinion that the website chose some of the more moderately conservative stands of the party to represent it.
I think they should have asked survey questions based upon the ideals of each party's platform. That way the 'test' would give a more accurated idea of where an individual stands up toward/against each party.
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« Reply #69 on: January 04, 2004, 02:29:38 am »
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I got inbetween George HW Bush and Jack Kemp on that one survery and the percentage one I got...

1) Republican Party     73%
2) Constitution Party   60%
3) Libertarian Party    53%
4) Democratic Party     40%
5) Natural Law Party    40%
6) Reform Party         27%
7) Green Party          20%
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« Reply #70 on: January 04, 2004, 06:28:23 am »
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I got inbetween George HW Bush and Jack Kemp on that one survery and the percentage one I got...

1) Republican Party     73%
2) Constitution Party   60%
3) Libertarian Party    53%
4) Democratic Party     40%
5) Natural Law Party    40%
6) Reform Party         27%
7) Green Party          20%

Well, good for you, no need to have doubts about party alignment, huh? Smiley
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« Reply #71 on: January 04, 2004, 07:26:10 am »
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I have drifted right-wards...

I did the madrabbit-test again and got 20 compared to my previous 19. Smiley

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« Reply #72 on: January 04, 2004, 07:34:50 am »
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Economic Left/Right: -3.25
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.26

Wait a minute...

CM is more liberal than me on social issues!? What is this!?
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« Reply #73 on: January 04, 2004, 10:21:27 am »
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Economic Left/Right: -3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36

Quiz Show: 14 (B. Clinton)

Democrat, without being too wacko or too moderate.  So I guess there are a few of us left - no pun intended.
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2. Earl Browder - 3.23

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« Reply #74 on: January 04, 2004, 11:41:51 pm »
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oh I did this thing once, can't be bothered doing it again though lol

I ended up moderately left wing, economically (something like -2 or -3) and socially liberal (something like -4 or -5)
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