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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2006, 10:28:59 PM »


At some point the Democrats might actually have to come up with... a plan!!!  *gasp*

Unlike the Republican party, they have plans.
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« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2006, 10:30:30 PM »


At some point the Democrats might actually have to come up with... a plan!!!  *gasp*

Unlike the Republican party, they have plans.



Evil Plans?
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« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2006, 11:09:14 PM »

Just hope the state economy doesn't go south or anything like that and you end up having to defend the Democrats over that.

The economy is, for the most part, a federal issue.

Maybe if we had huge taxes or something, but NH Democrats are libertarian-leaning.
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« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2006, 11:16:07 PM »

Just hope the state economy doesn't go south or anything like that and you end up having to defend the Democrats over that.

The economy is, for the most part, a federal issue.

Maybe if we had huge taxes or something, but NH Democrats are libertarian-leaning.
Don't you have a huge property tax? Even in relation to other NE states?
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« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2006, 11:17:36 PM »


Yes, it helps offset the lack of a sales or income tax. It's regressive, but people seem to prefer this system.

Overall, we have either the lowest or second lowest tax burden in the country of any state.
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« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2006, 11:37:37 PM »

Theres nowhere left for me to go Sad

The Democrats are becoming populist, and the Republican lost the moderates.
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« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2006, 11:51:51 PM »

Just hope the state economy doesn't go south or anything like that and you end up having to defend the Democrats over that.

The economy is, for the most part, a federal issue.

Maybe if we had huge taxes or something, but NH Democrats are libertarian-leaning.

And if you think that the voters won't be more than happy to blame the state legislature and the Governor for a bad economy, you are kidding yourself.
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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2006, 11:55:29 PM »

And if you think that the voters won't be more than happy to blame the state legislature and the Governor for a bad economy, you are kidding yourself.

No one has ever blamed the state government for the economy here.  Trust me, not gonna happen.
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« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2006, 08:04:31 AM »


That is possibly one of the scariest views I've seen expressed on here.  Seriously.
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« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2006, 12:40:35 PM »


That is possibly one of the scariest views I've seen expressed on here.  Seriously.

Unquestioned faith that a persons party of choice will do the right thing - it's why our government is so broken, and what allows a party that does get complete control to become so corrupt. It's like cheering for your party to WIN as if they were your home town football team. It's shame so many folks vote for political leaders like they vote for the probowl. And yes, it is terrifying.
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« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2006, 01:17:42 PM »

NH Republicans have controlled the state for much of the last century. I didnt' hear you guys whining about it then.

I am looking forward to the Democrats controlling everything here in NH, because I know they will do lots of good.
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« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2006, 01:48:56 PM »

NH Republicans have controlled the state for much of the last century. I didnt' hear you guys whining about it then.

I don't care which party it actually is that has total control; it's the fact that one-party control exists at all is what I'm terrified by.  But your gleeful anticipation for it is worse.


I am looking forward to the Democrats controlling everything here in NH, because I know they will do lots of good.

For the first few years I'm sure you'll feel great about it.  But before long the lack of any checks and balances will inevitably lead to widespread corruption and pork, and eventually a complete loss of focus too.  What will you say then?

This is why a split government is by far the best way a governmental system like ours can be run.
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« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2006, 02:35:39 PM »

Corruption and pork have never been a problem here. We're a small state and we keep it simple.
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« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2006, 03:03:07 PM »

I'll believe you on that one.  However, aren't you concerned about the impending lack of checks and balances in any way at all?
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« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2006, 04:11:52 PM »


That is possibly one of the scariest views I've seen expressed on here.  Seriously.

I have to completely agree. One party rule does no one good especially the type of one party rule that is apparent in Massachusetts. Jesus Christ I think the legislature of Kazakhstan has a larger opposition element than Massachusetts.

Scoonie you seriously have to consider that that type of blind partisanship is bad. When will you learn that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely? No matter what the party they will always be corrupted by power and use their power in order to serve themselves. You get on the Republicans constantly for this but your childish inability to see the faults apparent within your own party is troubling to say the least.
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« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2006, 04:52:36 PM »

Good lord, I have never accused NH Republicans of being corrupt in anyway. I just disagree with them. NH is a state where ethics and corruption have never been issues.

I trust both parties to keep it clean, I am just excited that Democrats finally have complete governing power in this state for the first time in 100+ years.
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« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2006, 04:55:34 PM »

However, aren't you concerned about the impending lack of checks and balances in any way at all?

Not really, not in this state.  We don't really get dirty politicians in this state. I trust all the state Dems very much.

I'm just happy that we'll finally see a minimum wage increase.
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« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2006, 05:20:52 PM »

I trust both parties to keep it clean, I am just excited that Democrats finally have complete governing power in this state for the first time in 100+ years.

Lynch got elected with nearly 65% of the vote. Isn't that enough to break the Republican governing power?
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« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2006, 05:25:49 PM »

Lynch got elected with nearly 65% of the vote. Isn't that enough to break the Republican governing power?

Lynch actually got 74% of the vote.

And the Republicans in the legislature blocked much of his agenda the last two years, so of course I'm happy that the Democrats won the legislature.
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« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2006, 07:02:41 PM »


That is possibly one of the scariest views I've seen expressed on here.  Seriously.

I have to completely agree. One party rule does no one good especially the type of one party rule that is apparent in Massachusetts. Jesus Christ I think the legislature of Kazakhstan has a larger opposition element than Massachusetts.

Scoonie you seriously have to consider that that type of blind partisanship is bad. When will you learn that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely? No matter what the party they will always be corrupted by power and use their power in order to serve themselves. You get on the Republicans constantly for this but your childish inability to see the faults apparent within your own party is troubling to say the least.

Seconded!

I live in a state that has been dominated by one party for decades and it is not the better for it. The levels of corruption and patronage in the NM Dems are worthy of the Mexican PRI, as is the level of arrogance. No state should have a dominant-party system if it wants good governance.
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« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2006, 10:03:57 PM »

the republican party has basically ceased to exist in massachusetts.

the 2007 massachusetts legislature will feature 5 republicans (out of 40) in the state senate and 19 republicans out of 160 in the state house.

ouch.

Holy Christ, that is terrible.  I was pretty surprised to see half of the House seats go unopposed this year, but I didn't realize things were that bad.

Are there any major offices left in MA that aren't held by Democrats?

after romney leaves office, the republicans will have no one in a statewide office.
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« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2006, 10:07:20 PM »


That is possibly one of the scariest views I've seen expressed on here.  Seriously.

scoonie is a former massachusetts resident.

if democrats have done an outstanding job here, how come the state is bleeding population (and jobs)?

and if democrats are the party of the working people, how come no one can afford to live in massachusetts?

that crowd on beacon hill hasnt done much for common people.  they spend most of their time handing out jobs to their cousins and working on trivial legislation like free needle exchanges.
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« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2006, 10:09:59 PM »

scoonie is a former massachusetts resident.

Yeah, for 10 short months. I've lived in NH pretty much my whole life.

And I actually don't agree all that much with Massachusetts Democrats. I'm much more of a libertarian-leaning Democrat (like NH Democrats). But these are two different states with vastly different populations, demographics and economies, so it's hard to compare the two.
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« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2006, 10:18:02 PM »

and if democrats are the party of the working people, how come no one can afford to live in massachusetts?

Massachusetts is a small, overpopulated state filled with extremely eduated people who make good salaries. The whole eastern half of the state is basically a big Boston suburb. Any metro area with a strong economy is going to be expensive to live in (see New York/New Jersey, DC Metro area, etc.)  Doesn't have anythign to do with the state government, it's the nature of the Boston metro area. Western Massachusetts is quite affordable.

And for the record, I hated living in Massachusetts (overcrowded, way too much traffic) and will never live there again.
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« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2006, 10:35:08 PM »

and if democrats are the party of the working people, how come no one can afford to live in massachusetts?

Massachusetts is a small, overpopulated state filled with extremely eduated people who make good salaries. The whole eastern half of the state is basically a big Boston suburb. Any metro area with a strong economy is going to be expensive to live in (see New York/New Jersey, DC Metro area, etc.)  Doesn't have anythign to do with the state government, it's the nature of the Boston metro area. Western Massachusetts is quite affordable.

And for the record, I hated living in Massachusetts (overcrowded, way too much traffic) and will never live there again.

i agree with you on the last part. 

maybe one of these days i may also end up in new hampshire.
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