1982 MS senate race revisted

[WalterMitty]

i would have definitely voted for the very young haley barbour, over the old racist john stennis.

http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=3765

[Democratic Hawk]

I'd have definately voted for Stennis just as all good Yellow Dogs would have back then

Dave

[Adlai Stevenson]

I'd have definately voted for Stennis just as all good Yellow Dogs would have back then

Dave

Like Strom Thurmond, Stennis reformed his views at the end of his life and was a very commited Senator.  Aside, 1982 was his closest and also his last race when he won by a 64%-35% margin.

[RBH]

Barbour tried to make Stennis' age the focus on his campaign.

Age-based campaigns by challengers are currently 0 for 50, or so.

10/20/1982, NYT:

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[Democratic Hawk]

I'd have definately voted for Stennis just as all good Yellow Dogs would have back then

Dave

Like Strom Thurmond, Stennis reformed his views at the end of his life and was a very commited Senator.  Aside, 1982 was his closest and also his last race when he won by a 64%-35% margin.

which is why I'd have voted for him

Dave

[Verily]

Barbour tried to make Stennis' age the focus on his campaign.

Age-based campaigns by challengers are currently 0 for 50, or so.

As someone pointed out in the Lautenberg thread, Lautenberg did defeat Millicent Fenwick (in 1982, in fact) partially on account of her advanced age.

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As someone pointed out in the Lautenberg thread, Lautenberg did defeat Millicent Fenwick (in 1982, in fact) partially on account of her advanced age.

Open seat

[Keystone Phil]

Age-based campaigns by challengers are currently 0 for 50, or so.

Not in Lautenberg's case in his first Senate campaign.

[RBH]

Age-based campaigns by challengers are currently 0 for 50, or so.

Not in Lautenberg's case in his first Senate campaign.

That was an open seat, so Lautenberg wasn't technically a challenger.

Age-based campaigns are just as useless as "The Incumbent will die" campaigns.

Eisenhower in 1956 was sorta like a combo.

John Raese couldn't get traction on Byrd by bringing up age.

Bill Nelson tried to use Lawton Chiles age and health against him in 1990, and lost. Because Florida is full of older people who dislike that sort of talk.

I'm sure one of the people facing Strom Thurmond tried to bring up that Strom was old as biblical dirt.

As for Barbour/Stennis, Barbour won two counties.

Here's the map.



Stennis is from Kemper County as well.

But, if Barbour won here, here's some changes in history.

Trent Lott never gets elected Senator, but instead becomes Speaker of the House in the 1990s. Lott was Minority Whip in the 80s.

But, that is the case if Lott is able capitalize on Clinton's failings like Newt Gingrich did.

Lott would have probably stunted the rise of Gingrich, and possibly stunted the rise of DeLay.

Wayne Dowdy would have probably ran in 1988 against Barbour. Although he could have kept his seat for awhile.

And Gene Taylor would have probably stayed in the Mississippi State Senate instead of running to replace Lott in 1988, and winning a special election in 1989.

[Kevin]

Did Stennis win a majority of the Black vote?

[RBH]

Probably.

Even Talmadge got a majority of the African-American vote in 1980. But, not enough of it to win.

[WalterMitty]

two questions:

1.  if the economy wasnt in the toilet in 82, how close would this race have been?
2. could lott have defeated stennis?

[HardRCafé]

Age-based campaigns by challengers are currently 0 for 50, or so.

Carper versus Roth.

[Keystone Phil]

Age-based campaigns by challengers are currently 0 for 50, or so.

Carper versus Roth.

Wow. How did I forget that one?

[RBH]

Age-based campaigns by challengers are currently 0 for 50, or so.

Carper versus Roth.

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http://www.sussexcountyonline.com/campaign2000/results/ussenate.html

[7,052,770]

Barbour sucks.  Not as much as Lott of course, so maybe Barbour should've won.  Maybe Gene Taylor would be our governor right now, and Gov. Taylor, Rep. Lott, and Sen. Barbour sounds like a much better combo than we have right now.

[HardRCafé]

Barbour sucks.  Not as much as Lott of course, so maybe Barbour should've won.  Maybe Gene Taylor would be our governor right now, and Gov. Taylor, Rep. Lott, and Sen. Barbour sounds like a much better combo than we have right now.

Funny, Barbour rose to the challenge of Hurricane Katrina while Blanco fell flat.  Maybe more states need a governor who "sucks," in your words.

[7,052,770]

Barbour sucks.  Not as much as Lott of course, so maybe Barbour should've won.  Maybe Gene Taylor would be our governor right now, and Gov. Taylor, Rep. Lott, and Sen. Barbour sounds like a much better combo than we have right now.

Funny, Barbour rose to the challenge of Hurricane Katrina while Blanco fell flat.  Maybe more states need a governor who "sucks," in your words.

bullsh**t.  Barbour didn't do any better, it's just that Blanco got upset (who wasn't upset?) right after it happened and Barbour didn't.  The actual actions of both governors were ok but not great.

[PBrunsel]

When it comes to campaignign against age, Representative William Hathaway run quite a negative age-based campaign aganist Margaret Chase-Smith in the 1972 U.S. Senate Election. He won by a fairly large margin as well, I think it was 53-46. That's quite a margin against a Senator who was viewed as fairly popular.

[HardRCafé]

bullsh**t.  Barbour didn't do any better, it's just that Blanco got upset (who wasn't upset?) right after it happened and Barbour didn't.  The actual actions of both governors were ok but not great.

For starters, Barbour did not block relief efforts.  Having Blanco was worse than having no governor at all.