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« on: December 06, 2006, 01:19:19 PM »

Interesting topic, but I won't try making a map because I honestly don't know enough.

Christian Democrats would win most of the South and plains, I'm not sure if there are any states where the FDP would be larger. They'd dominate places like suburban Illinois for sure though.

Social Democrats would win most states Kerry won outside the coasts, although I'm not sure how agrian areas vote in Germany so I won't comment there. The Greens would probably do better in the northeast and northwest. I tihnk the Social Democrats would do better in California.

Left Party would be strong in a few urban areas but obviously wouldn't win any states.

Can anyone who knows more make a map?
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2006, 07:01:21 PM »

Just a total guess, but...



Red=SPD
Blue=CDU

Can't see any of the other parties doing well, though the Greens might make inroads in Minnesota while the FDP could do well in the NE, especially NH.
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2006, 10:58:13 PM »

Wow, you have the CDU doing WAY WAY WAY too well.

There's no way they'd take places like Washington, Oregon, Hawaii, New Jersey, Maryland and Vermont.
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2006, 08:53:04 AM »
« Edited: December 07, 2006, 09:02:41 AM by Michael Z »

Wow, you have the CDU doing WAY WAY WAY too well.

There's no way they'd take places like Washington, Oregon, Hawaii, New Jersey, Maryland and Vermont.

By American standards the CDU are basically a bunch of Rockefeller Republicans (they've basically been centre-right ever since the Kohl era, with most of the right-wing lunatics in its sister party, the CSU).

On the other hand, the SPD supports things like universal/public health care and occasionally reverts to socialist rhetoric, which wouldn't go down well in most states AT ALL.
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2006, 09:21:33 AM »

But as with most European 'socialist' parties there is a HUGE difference between rhetoric and actual policy.

The CDU would win most elections though.
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2006, 12:23:11 PM »

But as with most European 'socialist' parties there is a HUGE difference between rhetoric and actual policy.

Of course, but you can imagine how well something like Müntefehring's "locusts"-remark would go down in the US, ie. not very.
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2006, 01:23:16 PM »

Schroeder was hardly too far to the left for anywhere, he certainly wasn't any further left than someone like Sherrod Brown or Nancy Pelosi. Hell, a Schroeder/Kohl matchup wouldn't be much different then your typical Democrat/Republican matchup, Schroeder's policies might actually be to the right of what Kerry would've done (assuming Democratic control of Congress which would be unlikely in that scenario)
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2006, 03:55:16 PM »

I think with this sort of thing, you have to assume that these parties (somehow... it really doesn't matter how as this sort of thing is entirely hypothetical) grew up naturally, rather than a direct transfer of parties (if that makes any sense. Hey, I know what I mean anyway...).

Basically you look at what sort of area votes strongly SPD (or CDU, or ALP or whatever) and see if you can find similer areas in the U.S, or you look at somewhere in the U.S, see if you can find a similer area in Germany (or Britain, or Australia, or Iceland or wherever) and the see how that area votes. And so on.
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2006, 07:50:26 PM »

My swing at it, which is probably completely horrible. The CSU, in this map, is a Southern Party instead of a Bavarian Party and is, of course, partnered with the CSU. This would have to be slightly different though. I could see them running joint lists, or something like that, in Florida, Kentucky, and Virginia. FDP does well in suburban and wealthy areas throughout the country and Greens do well in the wealthy inner-city areas.

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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2006, 06:42:26 AM »

Social Democrats would win most states Kerry won outside the coasts, although I'm not sure how agrian areas vote in Germany so I won't comment there.

Agrarian areas = CDU areas



Left Party would be strong in a few urban areas but obviously wouldn't win any states.

Same with the FDP and Greens (the latter part of the sentence).
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