Chile's Pinochet dead at 91

[Tender Branson]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6167237.stm
 
Chile's Gen Pinochet dead at 91 
 
Chile's former military leader Augusto Pinochet has died, the Santiago hospital treating him after an earlier heart attack has announced.

The hospital said the condition of the 91-year-old general had suddenly worsened, AP news agency said.

Gen Pinochet was in power from 1973-90, during which time more than 3,000 people were killed or "disappeared".

He is accused of dozens of human rights violations but has never faced trial because of poor health.

Gen Pinochet suffered a heart attack a week ago. He underwent medical procedures and received the last rites from a Catholic priest.

His condition had been thought to be improving.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Ha ha.

Burn in hell you bastard.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Shame the bastard was never convicted of his crimes.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Poor dazzleman. He must be crying a waterfall now that his hero's gone.

I'm going to have a shot now in celebration.

[Jens]

Shame the bastard was never convicted of his crimes.

Agree

[© tweed]

Good

[Sam Spade]

RIP

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

RIP

[Angel of Death]

Since I'm not religious, I don't see how death can be seen as a punishment.

[Jake]

God Bless.

[Angel of Death]

Haven't you guys figured it out already? Jake is a troll.

[TeePee4Prez]

Ha ha.

Burn in hell you bastard.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.

Though Allende was pretty bad too.

[kashifsakhan]

Shame the bastard was never convicted of his crimes.

[Speed of Sound]

Shame the bastard was never convicted of his crimes.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I just heard the news-- weird--we talked about him yesterday or somehting.

[Michael Z]

I just heard the news-- weird--we talked about him yesterday or somehting.

He's been in the news quite a lot since his heart attack a couple of days or so ago. Maybe that's why.

[Colin]

Well I'll have to look for him when I go to the lake of fire.

That would be an interesting conversation.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Long live Manuel Rodriguez Patriotic Front!

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Can't say I'm heartbroken about this.

RIH.

[KEmperor]

Since I'm not religious, I don't see how death can be seen as a punishment.

Um, you don't exist anymore, that's the punishment.

[Platypus]

Viva Chile libre!

[© tweed]

Murdered by Pinochet: Victor Jara

[Platypus]

Poor dazzleman. He must be crying a waterfall now that his hero's gone.

I'm going to have a shot now in celebration.

I went to church today and lit a candle for the soul of Mr. Pinochet.  May he rest in peace.

I think you need to address the matter of your own soul, BRTD.  Please come toward the light of salvation, and away from the wicked and sinful ways that you have been indulging yourself in.

Seriously, Pinochet was bad.

Allende was FAR from perfect. Maybe the coup was even a good idea. But after 5 or 6 years did Pinochet need to be there? No. Did he need to terrorise and torture tens of thousands? No. Did he need to order the murder of dissidents? No.

Not all that Pinochet did was bad, but he was not a good person and that candle won't change god's mind about his resting place, should the choice be heaven or hell.

[MaC]

Rest in Peace

[Storebought]

Poor dazzleman. He must be crying a waterfall now that his hero's gone.

I'm going to have a shot now in celebration.

I went to church today and lit a candle for the soul of Mr. Pinochet.  May he rest in peace.

I think you need to address the matter of your own soul, BRTD.  Please come toward the light of salvation, and away from the wicked and sinful ways that you have been indulging yourself in.

Your Fordham education is showing

And about Pinochet: I find it curious that Latin America's whitest countries, namely Argentina, Chile, and to a lesser extent, Uruguay, have produced the two continents' most odious dictators (outside of Columbia -- that country is a mess).

Pinochet seems like a Latin American version of Portugal's Salazar -- he used unadulturated authoritarianism to introduce modern economics to a backward basket case of a country. He left Chile more stable than when he found it.

Now compare that to Argentina's Peron. Peron took a wealthy, thoroughly Europeanized nation, with a higher standard of living than Canada, and did this:

1.Taking advantage of government leniency if not outright support, trade unions were formed in every industry. 2. Social security was made universal. 3. Education was made free to all who qualified. 4. Vast low-income housing projects were created. 5. Paid vacations became standard. 6. A working student was given one paid week before every major examination. 7. All workers (including white-collar employees like bank tellers, etc.) were guaranteed free medical care and half of their vacation-trip expenses. 8. A mother-to-be received 3 paid months off prior to and after giving birth. 9. Workers recreation centers were constructed all over Argentina, including a vast resort in the lower Sierras that included 8 hotels, scores of cabins, movies, swimming pools and riding stables. This resort was available to workers for 15 days a year, at the cost of 15 cents per day, all services included.

In order to strengthen Argentina's economy, Perón created the Argentina Institute for Promotion of Exchange (AIPE), a monopoly that handled all commodity exports. Cattle, wheat, etc. were sold at a high price overseas. While not socialism, this measure was consistent with the traditional Marxist demand for a monopoly on foreign trade. Perón also bought out the local IT&T operation and the railroad and trolley system from Great Britain. He paid off Argentina's foreign debt and launched a 5-year plan in 1946 that covered everything from the woman's right to vote to shipbuilding.

By 1954 Perón had initiated more than 45 major hydroelectric projects designed to produce 2 billion kilowatt-hours of energy, 20 times the amount that was available in 1936. While in hindsight we can say that these projects had ecological drawbacks, they still represented an audacious step in the direction of making every citizen's life more fulfilling. By 1947, Argentina had launched its own iron and steel industry. It was also moving forward in coal extraction and other raw materials using the most advanced technology available at the time. It began to make farm machinery, planes and cars in modest numbers. Ship-building had expanded by 500 percent under Perón's regime.

But Perón failed to sustain these progressive changes over the long haul. All of the gains of the Perón era have disappeared as workers' lives and fortunes have gone downhill.

Source: Some Columbia  University Marxist, but the raw data I cite specifically comes from Time Magazine.

Peron socialized every industry that Argentina had, with the result that, when he was deposed in 1955, it had a lower standard of living and a more destabilized social climate than it had in 1930.