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© Tweed the Younger
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1550 on:
February 19, 2008, 11:44:23 pm »
Obama surge, of course. hit a record high of 82 a little while ago.
Obama 78.5
Clinton 21.8
Gore 1.3
Edwards 0.2
McCain 95.5
Giuliani 1.3
Paul 1.2
Huckabee 0.9
Romney 0.6
Rice 0.4
Gingrich 0.2
Thompson 0.2
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1551 on:
February 19, 2008, 11:45:39 pm »
LOL, Giuliani higher than Huckabee and Paul.
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© Tweed the Younger
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1552 on:
February 19, 2008, 11:45:54 pm »
also, Obama has crossed 50 in winning individual. Clinton down to 12.
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© Tweed the Younger
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1553 on:
February 19, 2008, 11:46:36 pm »
Quote from: Verily on February 19, 2008, 11:45:39 pm
LOL, Giuliani higher than Huckabee and Paul.
the Rudy stock went a bit batsh**t earlier, with somebody buying out all the offers to 2.0. the current bid/ask split is 1.3/14.7.
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1554 on:
February 19, 2008, 11:48:30 pm »
Quote from: © Boss Tweed on February 19, 2008, 11:45:54 pm
also, Obama has crossed 50 in winning individual. Clinton down to 12.
Hahahahahahahaha......oh my......
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1555 on:
February 20, 2008, 12:20:33 am »
I tried selling off all my Clinton this afternoon, plus short another ten.
I got rid of all the Clinton at 28.3, but I was only able to short three more.
It should be safe to say that Clinton is done at this point. I'd short her even more at this point—I wouldn't go TOO wild, since there's still a chance she could pull it out (she's a Clinton, after all), but the smart money now is on Obama/McCain.
A fair value for Hillary right now would probably be closer to 15. I expect her to continue losing superdelegates to Obama in the coming days, and I wouldn't be surprised to see her drop Texas.
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1556 on:
February 20, 2008, 12:23:42 am »
Ah, remember me saying you SHOULDN'T buy Clinton before Wisconsin?
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1557 on:
February 20, 2008, 12:29:48 am »
Quote from: There Is No Miracle Here on February 20, 2008, 12:23:42 am
Ah, remember me saying you SHOULDN'T buy Clinton before Vermont?
Before Vermont?
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1558 on:
February 20, 2008, 12:30:31 am »
LOL wow, I have no clue what I was thinking there. Edited.
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1559 on:
February 20, 2008, 12:32:10 am »
Quote from: There Is No Miracle Here on February 20, 2008, 12:23:42 am
Ah, remember me saying you SHOULDN'T buy Clinton before Wisconsin?
Yep, I drastically under-estimated Obama.
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J. J.
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1560 on:
February 20, 2008, 01:09:25 am »
Quote from: Texas4Obama! on February 20, 2008, 12:32:10 am
Quote from: There Is No Miracle Here on February 20, 2008, 12:23:42 am
Ah, remember me saying you SHOULDN'T buy Clinton before Wisconsin?
Yep, I drastically under-estimated Obama.
I'll still give a buy for Clinton for the nomination; undervalued at this point, but I'd be prepared to sell in a hurry.
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1561 on:
February 20, 2008, 04:30:50 am »
This thing is massively overestimating the Democrats' chances in the general election. If I have done this thing correctly, I derive Hillary's conditional probability of winning the general election assuming she wins the nomination to be about 58% (compared to 69% for Obama). That just doesn't look right. If she still wins the nomination, it's likely this will not happen without huge damage being done in the process to the party's chances in the fall.
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1562 on:
February 20, 2008, 07:55:43 am »
Quote from: J. J. on February 20, 2008, 01:09:25 am
Quote from: Texas4Obama! on February 20, 2008, 12:32:10 am
Quote from: There Is No Miracle Here on February 20, 2008, 12:23:42 am
Ah, remember me saying you SHOULDN'T buy Clinton before Wisconsin?
Yep, I drastically under-estimated Obama.
I'll still give a buy for Clinton for the nomination; undervalued at this point, but I'd be prepared to sell in a hurry.
Sure, it's undervalued, but I don't see any events in the next couple weeks that are going to make people start buying her again.
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Mr. Morden
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1563 on:
February 20, 2008, 10:56:34 am »
Clinton sinks further for Dem. nomination:
Obama 80.0
Clinton 18.9
and in winning individual:
Obama 53.0
McCain 35.9
Clinton 10.0
Bloomberg 1.0
Clark now the frontrunner for Dem VP nominee:
Clark 12.5
Gore 8.8
Richardson 8.3
Bayh 7.7
Webb 7.5
Huckabee has collapsed in the GOP VP nominee market:
Pawlenty 22.5
Romney 8.7
Huckabee 8.4
Rice 5.0
Hutchison 3.9
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1564 on:
February 20, 2008, 12:38:05 pm »
Quote from: MarkWarner08 on February 08, 2008, 03:16:06 pm
Quote from: J. J. on February 08, 2008, 03:14:50 pm
Buy Clinton.
Agreed. She's definitely undervalued at this point.
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© Tweed the Younger
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1565 on:
February 20, 2008, 12:43:18 pm »
Ohio
Clinton 52.0
Obama 45.1
Texas
Obama 67.0
Clinton 30.0
Vermont
Obama 92.0
Clinton 10.1
Rhode Island
Obama 80.0
Clinton 25.0
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1566 on:
February 20, 2008, 12:46:21 pm »
Quote from: © Boss Tweed on February 20, 2008, 12:43:18 pm
Rhode Island
Obama 80.0
Clinton 25.0
Buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1567 on:
February 20, 2008, 12:49:28 pm »
Quote from: Alcon on February 20, 2008, 12:46:21 pm
Quote from: © Boss Tweed on February 20, 2008, 12:43:18 pm
Rhode Island
Obama 80.0
Clinton 25.0
Buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy
Buy who?
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Quote from: Sibboleth on February 28, 2009, 04:08:37 pm
I'm not sure if this new tendency to appeal to the apparent inherent evil of Xahar in all things even remotely related to forum policing or this damn game is especially helpful.
© Tweed the Younger
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1568 on:
February 20, 2008, 12:51:22 pm »
Quote from: Future Vice-Chairman Xahar on February 20, 2008, 12:49:28 pm
Quote from: Alcon on February 20, 2008, 12:46:21 pm
Quote from: © Boss Tweed on February 20, 2008, 12:43:18 pm
Rhode Island
Obama 80.0
Clinton 25.0
Buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy
Buy who?
he means Clinton, as RI's demographics favor Clinton, in theory. but then again - if Worcester County + a few %'s worth of blacks voted on March 4, would Obama win it? maybe, maybe not. I wouldn't touch the market.
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1569 on:
February 20, 2008, 01:20:48 pm »
One thing to remember about Intrade—one thing I've learned playing around with it over the last few months—is that the market is painfully inefficent. People get a lot more emotional about a share of Obama to win the Presidency than they do over a share of Microsoft.
And the markets are surprisingly slow to react to news. They're not liquid enough, even in the big stocks. We all knew Hillary would lose Wisconsin. The market knew Hillary would lose Wisconsin—Obama had a huge lead there. In a fully liquid market, that news would have already been priced into Hillary to win the nomination. If Hillary was a stock on the NYSE, she'd have fallen maybe one or two percent based on the strength of Obama's win. On Intrade, she tanked 33%.
If she loses Texas, which
Intrade already expects to happen
, shares of her to win the nomination will plunge into the single digits. Buy Hillary at your own peril—the short term market will eat you alive for it.
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1570 on:
February 21, 2008, 05:22:51 pm »
Obama's probably overvalued in every state except Vermont, but I wouldn't be comfortable shorting in any one besides Rhode island. In Rhode Island I am currently shorting on the mock InTrade.
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1571 on:
February 22, 2008, 05:26:14 pm »
Democratic Rest of Field is up to 3.6 on IEM. odd.
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1572 on:
February 22, 2008, 05:27:21 pm »
Quote from: © Boss Tweed on February 22, 2008, 05:26:14 pm
Democratic Rest of Field is up to 3.6 on IEM. odd.
Hoping for a brokered convention, I guess.
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Quote from: © Tweedism is for poseurs in junior high on January 31, 2013, 04:28:53 pm
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© Tweed the Younger
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1573 on:
February 22, 2008, 05:30:32 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Moderate on February 22, 2008, 05:27:21 pm
Quote from: © Boss Tweed on February 22, 2008, 05:26:14 pm
Democratic Rest of Field is up to 3.6 on IEM. odd.
Hoping for a brokered convention, I guess.
or the scenario opebo outlined in the other thread.
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Re: New Tradesports rankings
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Reply #1574 on:
February 23, 2008, 07:35:21 pm »
Obama now at 85.0, Hillary at 14.7. Obama is at roughly the same spot McCain was at after Florida, and is also now more than 10 points higher than Hillary's peak.
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