New Tradesports rankings

[Reaganfan]

He's at 19, Hillary is 53...what kind of surge is that?

[Reaganfan]

New numbers. Warner is doing pretty well for having said he's not running.
McCain is close to an all time high.

Democrats

Clinton 53.4
Obama 20.5
Edwards 10.4
Gore 7.0
Warner 3.0
Vilsack 2.1
Richardson 1.7
Kerry 1.7
Clark 1.0
Biden 0.8
Dodd 0.6

Republicans

McCain 51.2
Romney 15.4
Giuliani 14.7
Huckabee 7.1
Gingrich 4.5
Rice 1.6
Brownback 1.3
Hagel 1.0
Cheney 0.8
J. Bush 0.6
Pataki 0.6

If they would get rid of the candidates of Gore, Warner, Gingrich, Rice, Cheney, and Jeb Bush...then the ratings would be better.

[Reaganfan]

McCain's hold on the GOP nomination is only going to increase.  He's the establishment candidate.

He'll be 72 years old in 2008. The last time the president-elect was older than the president in an open race was 1908, an Bill Taft was only older than Roosevelt by a year! It's not going to happen.

I like the fact McCain is older. We need an older President in these times, in my opinion.

[Reaganfan]

Obama is now at 19.5, and Edwards has moved up to 19.0.  At this rate, Edwards will soon surpass Obama.

Of course, part of what's holding Obama back is that there's still doubt in some quarters about whether he's actually going to run.  If Obama announced today that he was running, he would probably see an immediate uptick to at least 25.0 or so.

There are some rumors that he'll announce on Martin Luther King Day (Monday), but those are just rumors.

Richardson said he'd make a decision soon, though.

MLK day? LOL...LOLOL....LOLOLOL

[Reaganfan]

McCain's rise has to be attributed to his annoucement on Letterman.

[Reaganfan]

Yes, Giuliani has rebounded, as has Romney.  McCain's odds are actually now slightly closer to Romney's than Giuliani's.  Which is stunning, when compared to just a couple of weeks ago.

News is that some of McCain's staffers quit when he announced his intention to run on Letterman, and that they should know within two weeks the extent of the damage.

[Reaganfan]

8.3 is amazing for some obscure guy who hasn't announced he's running.

It speaks volumes about the wretched Republican field. They're desperately searching for a candidate who won't lose too badly next year.

Um...do you think Giuliani and McCain and Thompson would lose "badly" against any of the big three democrats? I can see scenarios, sure...but even though the popular belief should be towards the democrats...I think republicans have stronger candidates running.

[Reaganfan]

8.3 is amazing for some obscure guy who hasn't announced he's running.

It speaks volumes about the wretched Republican field. They're desperately searching for a candidate who won't lose too badly next year.

Um...do you think Giuliani and McCain and Thompson would lose "badly" against any of the big three democrats? I can see scenarios, sure...but even though the popular belief should be towards the democrats...I think republicans have stronger candidates running.

Giuliani has the family values of Warren Beatty (he can't keep a family together and you want to give him the free world. LOL) and McCain has gone from being an intense hot head to more docile than Mr. Rogers.  The Dems would destroy either. You should hope it's Fred.


Yeah, from electoralvote.com:

"Rudy Giuliani scores well in national polls, but it is almost inconceivable that he could get the Republican nomination. Here's the ad Karl Rove will use against him: "So, it took him 14 years to realize he had married his second cousin, at which time he asked for an annulment. It could happen to anyone. Then he married a beautiful actress. When his beautiful actress wife got tired of his publicly cheating on her, first with his communications director, Christyne Lategano, then with his soon-to-be third wife, a divorced nurse, she kicked him out of the house, so he moved in with his best friends, a rich, loving gay couple living on Manhattan's chic upper east side." Throw in Giuliani's longstanding support of abortion, gay rights, and gun control, and to the Republican activists who vote in primaries, he might as well be the former mayor of Sodom and Gomorrah. He could become president though. All he has to do is become a Democrat. Imagine, a pro-choice, pro-gay, anti-gun tough guy former prosecutor. He'd give Hillary a real run for her money. Although he is doing well in national polls, just wait until his interpretation of family values becomes better known."

It would be something else if national security trumped all those issues. Keep in mind, this is the first Republican Primary post-September 11th. Things are different than in 2000.

[Reaganfan]

why is dodd so low?!?!?!

He's only been a Senator for over 20 years, Walter! In order to stand a good shot a Democratic Momentum, you need atleast 18 months Senate experience.

[Reaganfan]

McCain and Thompson are on the rise, Rudy and Romney fall.

[Reaganfan]

I think Democrats are definitely afraid of Fred Thompson.  They try to comfort themselves by saying "he's a pro-war southern conservative . . . can't win."  But in the back of their minds they know that he can win, and it gives them the creeps to think that the American people might put a Bush clone back in the White House in 2008.

Can you imagine the opening of the Thompson-Clinton debates? Hillary's 5'6 and Thompson is 6'6. Oh my lord...he would have to bend down to shake her hand.

[Reaganfan]

Obama rebounds.

The guy who was too chicken to be in the Republican debate gains the most. McCain might as well get in a tank, because there's a lot of tank in his campaign. Paul isn't quite as overrated any more.

Many agree that McCain actually won last night's debate.

[Reaganfan]

Obama rebounds.

The guy who was too chicken to be in the Republican debate gains the most. McCain might as well get in a tank, because there's a lot of tank in his campaign. Paul isn't quite as overrated any more.

Many agree that McCain actually won last night's debate.

You only count as one person.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/06/06/by_standing_alone_mccain_finds_a_chance_to_stand_out/
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/06/215592.aspx

[Reaganfan]

Romney's the one hurting McCain...damn!!