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« on: December 16, 2006, 12:28:47 am »
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Kentucky.

They had 8 counties go to McGovern, 20 go to Mondale, and 20 go to Goldwater.

I think Kentucky is one of the few states that has streaks of counties going for one party for 140 years on both sides.
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2006, 12:34:17 am »
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I can't really think of any where I think it's impossible...Kentucky is up there, though.
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2006, 05:54:09 am »
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New York comes to mind.  Even in Democratic landslides, there's always Hamilton County, and even in Republican landslides, there's always the Bronx.
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2006, 05:55:59 am »
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2006, 06:14:42 am »
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Quote from: jfern on December 16, 2006, 05:55:59 am
California

After looking them up, yeah, that one's better than mine.  California only did this once (in presidental elections) in the 20th century (1920) while New York did it three times (1920, 1924, 1964).  It also has indeed never happened with Kentucky in the time period for which Dave has maps, but since those end at 1940, it's inconclusive.
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2006, 08:06:17 am »
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NJ, Hudson and Sussex would never switch there too hyperpartisan
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2006, 01:25:19 pm »
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Michigan--w/ wayne county, it will NEVER happen.
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2006, 01:26:11 pm »
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The answer is obviously Mississippi.

The black counties will never vote with the white redneck counties.

Hitler could run as a Democrat and win some counties, and also win some counties as a Republican.
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2006, 02:27:27 pm »
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Quote from: Harry on December 16, 2006, 01:26:11 pm
The answer is obviously Mississippi.

The black counties will never vote with the white redneck counties.

Hitler could run as a Democrat and win some counties, and also win some counties as a Republican.

The same holds true for South Carolina.
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2006, 03:31:49 pm »
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Quote from: DownWithTheLeft on December 16, 2006, 08:06:17 am
NJ, Hudson and Sussex would never switch there too hyperpartisan

Hudson voted for Reagan in 1984 (Essex voted for Mondale) and for Nixon in 1972. (Nixon swept NJ.) Sussex voted for Johnson in 1964. (Johnson swept NJ.)
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2006, 06:30:22 pm »
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Illinois - Even Alan Keyes managed to carry a few counties in the face of the biggest landslide election for governor in state history.  At the other extreme, I can't imagine a Republican carrying Cook County considering how strongly Democratic the city of Chicago is.

Iowa - Johnson County (which contains Iowa City) is more Democratic than Massachusetts while Sioux County (in the far northwest) is more Republican than Utah.

South Dakota - This state has counties that are at least as heavily Democratic as Washington DC and counties that are at least as heavily Republican.

Texas - This state is so big and so diverse that I can't imagine a candidate carrying all counties given how heavily Democratic some of the southern counties are and how heavily Republican the northwestern part of the state is.
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2006, 06:34:34 pm »
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South Dakota - This state has counties that are at least as heavily Democratic as Washington DC and counties that are at least as heavily Republican.

Herseth almost did it.  She just missed Douglas County.
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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2006, 08:36:00 pm »
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Quote from: Inks.LWC on December 16, 2006, 01:25:19 pm
Michigan--w/ wayne county, it will NEVER happen.

"Never" might be a bit too strong.  It did happen in 1928.
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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2006, 08:58:22 pm »
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Pennsylvania-Will be hard as hell for a Republican to sweep...Philadelphia county hasn't gone Republican in God knows how long...and theres gotta be a couple counties in the T that wouldn't go democratic.
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2006, 10:13:58 pm »
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Probably the only time that Kentucky had one candidate win every county in a statewide race.

Wendell Ford v. Jackson Andrews, 1986.



Ford won 74-26, and won 52/48 (889-809) in Clinton County.
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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2006, 10:22:23 am »
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Amazing map there
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2006, 06:35:50 pm »
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The closest to a Dem sweep.

Jim Blanchard (D) v. Bill Lucas (R), 1986:



Blanchard won 68/31. Including a 73/26 win in Lucas' home county (Wayne).
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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2006, 02:18:08 am »
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Ohio, Texas, Georgia, Missouri, Virginia seem like good candidates-although I'm sure someone will use a map to counterexample.
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2006, 07:20:34 am »
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Ohio, Texas, Georgia, Missouri, Virginia seem like good candidates-although I'm sure someone will use a map to counterexample.

Ohio- in 2004, every county voted for Voinovich.
Georgia- in 1972, every single county went for Nixon, and then in 1976, every single county went for Carter.
Virginia- in 2004, every county voted for J. Warner, though he did not have a Democrat opposing him.

Missouri and Texas look good though.
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2006, 10:28:49 am »
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Quote from: RBH on December 18, 2006, 06:35:50 pm
The closest to a Dem sweep.

Jim Blanchard (D) v. Bill Lucas (R), 1986:



Blanchard won 68/31. Including a 73/26 win in Lucas' home county (Wayne).

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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2006, 04:56:41 pm »
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Until Bredesen's re-election, I would have said TN. Amazing that a Dem carried every county in E. Tennessee. Good job Phil!
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2006, 09:25:38 pm »
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Quote from: memphis on December 20, 2006, 04:56:41 pm
Until Bredesen's re-election, I would have said TN. Amazing that a Dem carried every county in E. Tennessee. Good job Phil!

What a sad mandate for murder.
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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2006, 01:02:16 am »
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Quote from: memphis on December 20, 2006, 04:56:41 pm
Until Bredesen's re-election, I would have said TN. Amazing that a Dem carried every county in E. Tennessee. Good job Phil!

What a sad mandate for murder.

I assume you're referring to the TennCare cuts, which really made me angry as well. What was really dumb about them was that TN is surrendering two dollars in federal money for every one dollar it is saving in state money. I'm sure there are forty-nine other states that won't mind taking that federal cash.
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« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2006, 01:28:45 am »
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The real question is, which states are the most likely....

I would say that probably about 45 of the states are geographically or demographically diverse enough to not have all their counties go the same way, even in a landslide.

VT, Mass, NH, CT and RI are the only states that come to mind that lack that kind or diversity.
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« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2006, 02:06:47 am »
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Quote from: Supersoulty on December 21, 2006, 01:28:45 am
VT, Mass, NH, CT and RI are the only states that come to mind that lack that kind or diversity.

There's also Utah, Wyoming, and Nebraska, both of which frequently have all their counties won by the Republican.
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