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Gabu
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« on: December 20, 2006, 09:40:07 PM »

John Kerry, who placed last out of the major candidates, announces that, if he does not come in third place or higher in the New Hampshire Primary, he will leave the race.

New Hampshire Primary
Democratic Results
[X] Roy Barnes: 44.36%
Tom Daschle: 43.25%
John Kerry: 10.63%
Other: 1.76%

....

John Kerry leaves the race, and endorses Barnes.

OMG FLIP-FLOPPER HE CAME IN THIRD BUT LEFT ANYWAY Angry

Wink
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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2006, 05:17:54 PM »

I am considering doing it "real time."

24 style, maybe some explosions see Roy Barnes torturing some people, you could even get Polish actor to play an Arab terrorist like he always does.

What do you mean by "real time" though?

Haha.

What I mean is this:

Election coverage starts at 7:00 P.M. with the first two states being called.  In real time, I would call Indiana and Kentucky at 7, the other states at their respective times, basically replicating actual election night coverage.

If you want to make it really real time, you could simulate really close states by having it too close to call when polls close and then have the states get called later.
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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2006, 12:08:04 AM »

With days until the election, Bush has closed the gap.  On the day before the election, the race is up in the air.

November 1st, 2004
Rasmussen Reports
Nationwide Poll

Bush Solid: 163
Bush Total: 217
Tossup: 93
Barnes Total: 228
Barnes Solid: 183

This doesn't really seem that realistic.  After September 11, Bush's approval ratings (in the real world) rocketed up to above 90%.  I think that the incumbent president would win in a walk if there really was a terrorist attack literally a week before election day.
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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2006, 09:47:50 PM »

I AM RELEASING A VIDEO

IT IS CALLED "LOOSE CHANGE PT. 2" AND CLEARLY SHOWS THAT BUSH ORCHESTRATED THE OCTOBER SURPRISE IN ORDER TO WIN THE ELECTION

I DO THIS BY DRAWING RANDOM CIRCLES AND ARROWS OVERTOP PHOTOS AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND PUTTING THESE PICTURES INTO A MONTAGE COMBINED WITH OMINOUS MUSIC FROM MY FAVORITE MOVIE
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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2006, 10:06:16 PM »

President Bush’s electoral total ... [is] 209 [and he needs] only 261 more electoral votes to win the election.

I think there's a slight typo in there, unless the Democrats rigged the election to require 470 electoral votes for a Republican to win. Smiley
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Gabu
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2007, 05:41:39 PM »


Those four words of your above post highlight what I am trying to depict. 

What I was trying to say was that it would take the Israelis retaliating with a completely out of proportion response to nuke Iran. Thus it would be vengeance that has gone out of control. The Israelis, to a greater extent than Americans, are realists when it comes to military and foreign policy mostly because they have to be.

I sort of get the sense that Yates is purposefully overdramatizing things for interest's sake.
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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2007, 06:38:37 PM »

World War III would denote a war that is fought on a global scale. A couple of missiles launches, the Israelis going nuclear, and Syria invading the Golan Heights are the makings of a Middle Eastern War but not a world war.

It wouldn't matter; the media are just jumping to have another World War so any large scale conflict would be called a "World War" in the papers. Just think how many more papers "World War III" would sell than "Middle East War XXXXXVIII".

Hell, just look back to July/August during the Lebannon/Isreal conflict. The media was just hoping that Iran, Syria and company would jump in so they could use their "World War" tagline.

That's just my take on the matter though.

Oh yeah, I completely forgot that Israel invading Lebanon was hailed as some as the start of World War III.
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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2007, 11:47:09 PM »

I can't remember a what-if scenario in a long time that has had me wanting more to the extent that this has.

Excellent work. Smiley
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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2007, 12:22:58 AM »

HOLBROOKE/BAYH 2008!!1111
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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2007, 10:22:39 PM »

I wish Clinton's numbers were that low in reality.

Well, this is later than right now, so hold out hope... Wink
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Gabu
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2007, 07:35:43 PM »

I think we're all just sitting here in awe with nothing to say but "Please, Sir, I want some more".
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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2007, 01:01:38 PM »

Henry/Durbin '08!
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Gabu
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2007, 04:45:36 PM »



Please, Sir, I want some more.
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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2007, 08:07:43 PM »

BREAKING NEWS: North Korean state television is now reporting that missiles containing nuclear warheads are aimed at the cities of Tokyo, Beijing, and Seoul.  A top military official has given orders to have the missiles ready for launch at a moment’s notice.

Tokyo I can see, but Seoul seems especially unlikely.  Take a look at a map of South Korea:



Seoul is right smack on the North Korean border.  Any nuclear missile fired at Seoul would almost assuredly spread radioactive fallout all over North Korea.  I don't think that Kim Jong-Il is that insane.
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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2007, 11:25:25 PM »

I don't think that Kim Jong-Il is that insane.

You're giving him a lot of credit.

Even the craziest of people don't do things that hurt themselves.
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Gabu
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Political Matrix
E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2007, 10:12:33 PM »

I don't think that Kim Jong-Il is that insane.

You're giving him a lot of credit.

Even the craziest of people don't do things that hurt themselves.

The thing of it is though, is that southern North Korea is quite scarecly populated. Any nuclear fallout would certainly fall short of Pyongyang. Even if a fairly good number of people in North Korea were to die as a result of detonation...does Kim Jong Il really strike you as a person who would care?

I suppose you could have a point, but it should also be noted that North Korea has a huge thing of artillery pointed at Seoul and can level the city in minutes by conventional means... I'm not sure why he wouldn't just make use of that instead of using a nuke.
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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2007, 12:08:34 AM »

Well, considering that it's just a story...I would imagine that it's for dramatic effect.

Well yeah.  I'm just saying. Tongue
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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2007, 04:54:34 PM »


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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2007, 11:02:34 PM »

I think it's fairly evident that Kyl will win, given that otherwise this will have had multiple Democratic victories in a row, but you're doing a very good job keeping it interesting nonetheless. Smiley
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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2007, 11:20:21 PM »

I'm gonna go out on a ledge and say that everything will probably come down to Minnesota, which Kyl will then win.
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Gabu
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« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2007, 12:11:06 AM »

Well, there goes one of my two predictions. Tongue
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