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« Reply #1150 on: September 17, 2009, 06:06:46 pm »
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I don't like these new scores because it makes it like I am a populist which I am not. I still support Social Security Privatisation, lower taxes, less regulation, and am anti-Union. I however support subsidizing low income health care, more money for education, and the minimum wage.

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Economic score: +3.16
Social score: +6.17


Old
PM Economic:  4.26
PM Social:  3.65

welcome to The religious Right's side

My views haven't changed. I have been a social conservative for over three years now. What changed was the importance and whethere I rated it Stongly Agree/Disagree-or just Agree/Disagree.

Where I have changed has been economics where I have gone slightly to the left.



Another thing you should remember is that I am very secular, this fact will make people think less of me when they realise that the only reason I am social conservative is not because of religion but because I think people need to be restrained for the order of society and order is as important as freedom to me.

Why?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Despite disagreeing, the position is completely understandable. No need for a "why?".

To me this so-called "order" social conservatives want sounds more like "control". Seriously the only thing missing from the socialcon's agenda that prevents them from being full on control freaks is gun control, and even then there are quite a few of them that do embrace it.

If thats how you want to look at it fine. The idea of giving you the anarchy you crave is abhorrent to me. I oppose Gun control. I beleive you should be able to own an Assualt Rifle, but if you use it on another human, then the right to hang you with barb wire shall be researved by the state. Tongue

     How is that any different from saying people should be able to own violent pornography, but if they then go out & rape someone they should be hanged with barbed wire? Just asking. Tongue

You got him there.

He hasn't got sh**t. A gun can have positive uses, pornography is just pornography.  Plus don't forget that unlike libertarians who apply a broad philosophy to all issues, I have a set of issues that I have a firm position on regardless of ideology, many don't fit neatly on the partisan scale, like immigration.

Besides shouldn't it be handled by the regions anyway? And if this bill passes doesn't it violate Regional rights? Now whose got who? Grin
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« Reply #1151 on: September 17, 2009, 06:08:33 pm »
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I don't like these new scores because it makes it like I am a populist which I am not. I still support Social Security Privatisation, lower taxes, less regulation, and am anti-Union. I however support subsidizing low income health care, more money for education, and the minimum wage.

New
Economic score: +3.16
Social score: +6.17


Old
PM Economic:  4.26
PM Social:  3.65

welcome to The religious Right's side

My views haven't changed. I have been a social conservative for over three years now. What changed was the importance and whethere I rated it Stongly Agree/Disagree-or just Agree/Disagree.

Where I have changed has been economics where I have gone slightly to the left.



Another thing you should remember is that I am very secular, this fact will make people think less of me when they realise that the only reason I am social conservative is not because of religion but because I think people need to be restrained for the order of society and order is as important as freedom to me.

Why?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Despite disagreeing, the position is completely understandable. No need for a "why?".

To me this so-called "order" social conservatives want sounds more like "control". Seriously the only thing missing from the socialcon's agenda that prevents them from being full on control freaks is gun control, and even then there are quite a few of them that do embrace it.

If thats how you want to look at it fine. The idea of giving you the anarchy you crave is abhorrent to me. I oppose Gun control. I beleive you should be able to own an Assualt Rifle, but if you use it on another human, then the right to hang you with barb wire shall be researved by the state. Tongue

     How is that any different from saying people should be able to own violent pornography, but if they then go out & rape someone they should be hanged with barbed wire? Just asking. Tongue

You got him there.

He hasn't got sh**t. A gun can have positive uses, pornography is just pornography.  Plus don't forget that unlike libertarians who apply a broad philosophy to all issues, I have a set of issues that I have a firm position on regardless of ideology, many don't fit neatly on the partisan scale, like immigration.

Besides shouldn't it be handled by the regions anyway? And if this bill passes doesn't it violate Regional rights? Now whose got who? Grin

I don't agree with your position, I don't support the bill at all, and I don't support it being a regional issue. Smiley

And no one else could even place an ideology on me/my positions. Grin
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« Reply #1152 on: September 17, 2009, 06:15:19 pm »
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I don't like these new scores because it makes it like I am a populist which I am not. I still support Social Security Privatisation, lower taxes, less regulation, and am anti-Union. I however support subsidizing low income health care, more money for education, and the minimum wage.

New
Economic score: +3.16
Social score: +6.17


Old
PM Economic:  4.26
PM Social:  3.65

welcome to The religious Right's side

My views haven't changed. I have been a social conservative for over three years now. What changed was the importance and whethere I rated it Stongly Agree/Disagree-or just Agree/Disagree.

Where I have changed has been economics where I have gone slightly to the left.



Another thing you should remember is that I am very secular, this fact will make people think less of me when they realise that the only reason I am social conservative is not because of religion but because I think people need to be restrained for the order of society and order is as important as freedom to me.

Why?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Despite disagreeing, the position is completely understandable. No need for a "why?".

To me this so-called "order" social conservatives want sounds more like "control". Seriously the only thing missing from the socialcon's agenda that prevents them from being full on control freaks is gun control, and even then there are quite a few of them that do embrace it.

If thats how you want to look at it fine. The idea of giving you the anarchy you crave is abhorrent to me. I oppose Gun control. I beleive you should be able to own an Assualt Rifle, but if you use it on another human, then the right to hang you with barb wire shall be researved by the state. Tongue

     How is that any different from saying people should be able to own violent pornography, but if they then go out & rape someone they should be hanged with barbed wire? Just asking. Tongue

You got him there.

He hasn't got sh**t. A gun can have positive uses, pornography is just pornography.  Plus don't forget that unlike libertarians who apply a broad philosophy to all issues, I have a set of issues that I have a firm position on regardless of ideology, many don't fit neatly on the partisan scale, like immigration.

Besides shouldn't it be handled by the regions anyway? And if this bill passes doesn't it violate Regional rights? Now whose got who? Grin

I don't agree with your position, I don't support the bill at all, and I don't support it being a regional issue. Smiley

And no one else could even place an ideology on me/my positions. Grin

You're perhaps the only person on here who I would label as a "what the friggin hell do I call this?".
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« Reply #1153 on: September 17, 2009, 08:28:12 pm »
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It's funny, I'm a strong believer in God, and am a social conservative mainly because of religion, but i'm not very religious.

So, basically, you're a hypocrite. FWIW, I'm quite religious.
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« Reply #1154 on: September 17, 2009, 08:47:50 pm »
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I don't like these new scores because it makes it like I am a populist which I am not. I still support Social Security Privatisation, lower taxes, less regulation, and am anti-Union. I however support subsidizing low income health care, more money for education, and the minimum wage.

New
Economic score: +3.16
Social score: +6.17


Old
PM Economic:  4.26
PM Social:  3.65

welcome to The religious Right's side

My views haven't changed. I have been a social conservative for over three years now. What changed was the importance and whethere I rated it Stongly Agree/Disagree-or just Agree/Disagree.

Where I have changed has been economics where I have gone slightly to the left.



Another thing you should remember is that I am very secular, this fact will make people think less of me when they realise that the only reason I am social conservative is not because of religion but because I think people need to be restrained for the order of society and order is as important as freedom to me.

Why?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Despite disagreeing, the position is completely understandable. No need for a "why?".

To me this so-called "order" social conservatives want sounds more like "control". Seriously the only thing missing from the socialcon's agenda that prevents them from being full on control freaks is gun control, and even then there are quite a few of them that do embrace it.

If thats how you want to look at it fine. The idea of giving you the anarchy you crave is abhorrent to me. I oppose Gun control. I beleive you should be able to own an Assualt Rifle, but if you use it on another human, then the right to hang you with barb wire shall be researved by the state. Tongue

     How is that any different from saying people should be able to own violent pornography, but if they then go out & rape someone they should be hanged with barbed wire? Just asking. Tongue

You got him there.

He hasn't got sh**t. A gun can have positive uses, pornography is just pornography.  Plus don't forget that unlike libertarians who apply a broad philosophy to all issues, I have a set of issues that I have a firm position on regardless of ideology, many don't fit neatly on the partisan scale, like immigration.

Besides shouldn't it be handled by the regions anyway? And if this bill passes doesn't it violate Regional rights? Now whose got who? Grin

     Ah, I forgot that things needed to have a positive use for the government to be able to consider gracing people with the chance of owning them. Tongue It seems that you forget that in the paradigm of free market economics any item that somebody is willing to buy has a positive use, even if it doesn't actually do anything substantial.

     Also, I don't think that I would characterize holding ideologically contradictory views as being a positive thing compared to, say, applying a coherent philosophy to all issues. But maybe I'm just a crazy Libertarian for subscribing to the coherence theory of truth. Grin
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« Reply #1155 on: September 20, 2009, 06:32:35 am »
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Previous score:
Economic score: +2.84
Social score: - 4.17

New score:
Economic score: +5.35
Social score: -6.17

Unsurprisingly, became more socially liberal and more economically conservative. Shall do another every month from now on.

Economic score: +4.84
Social score: -6.35

Bizarrely enough, moved left on both. Most concerning.

Economic score: +8.26
Social score: -7.13

Cool. Far more realistic.

Economic score: +8.13
Social score: -6.09

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« Reply #1156 on: September 20, 2009, 11:14:38 am »
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Economic: -7.1
Social: -5.22 (-0.35)

A slide to the left. Smiley
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« Reply #1157 on: September 20, 2009, 06:18:27 pm »
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My first go at it:

Economic: +5.03
Social:  -2.43
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« Reply #1158 on: September 20, 2009, 06:19:42 pm »
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My first go at it:

Economic: +5.03
Social:  -2.43

What a tool of the religious right! Wink
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« Reply #1159 on: September 20, 2009, 07:58:18 pm »
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My first go at it:

Economic: +5.03
Social:  -2.43

     Not bad. Tongue
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« Reply #1160 on: September 20, 2009, 09:34:24 pm »
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Just for fun, I took the test as my positions were at my most conservative (summer 2007)

Economic score: +2.26
Social score: +0.61
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« Reply #1161 on: September 20, 2009, 09:51:12 pm »
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Old : E +4.84. New E +5.1
Old S -7.57.  New S -7.39
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« Reply #1162 on: September 21, 2009, 01:38:57 am »
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Economic score: +0.77
Social score: -5.04

Awkward result.  I'm going to have to retry that in the morning or something.
Dude just admit it, you are becoming a Democrat. Tongue

Someday I might become liberal, but I'll never be a Democrat. Wink

Exactly how I feel.
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« Reply #1163 on: September 21, 2009, 08:40:22 pm »
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Economic score: -4.45
Social score: -7.74
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« Reply #1164 on: September 22, 2009, 07:51:00 am »
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It's funny, I'm a strong believer in God, and am a social conservative mainly because of religion, but i'm not very religious.

So, basically, you're a hypocrite. FWIW, I'm quite religious.

I have noticed many liberals are actuately more religious then there conservative counterparts. I have also noticed that many Southerners, Evans, and other cultural conservatives are indeed hypocrits.

I don't like these new scores because it makes it like I am a populist which I am not. I still support Social Security Privatisation, lower taxes, less regulation, and am anti-Union. I however support subsidizing low income health care, more money for education, and the minimum wage.

New
Economic score: +3.16
Social score: +6.17


Old
PM Economic:  4.26
PM Social:  3.65

welcome to The religious Right's side

My views haven't changed. I have been a social conservative for over three years now. What changed was the importance and whethere I rated it Stongly Agree/Disagree-or just Agree/Disagree.

Where I have changed has been economics where I have gone slightly to the left.



Another thing you should remember is that I am very secular, this fact will make people think less of me when they realise that the only reason I am social conservative is not because of religion but because I think people need to be restrained for the order of society and order is as important as freedom to me.

Why?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Despite disagreeing, the position is completely understandable. No need for a "why?".

To me this so-called "order" social conservatives want sounds more like "control". Seriously the only thing missing from the socialcon's agenda that prevents them from being full on control freaks is gun control, and even then there are quite a few of them that do embrace it.

If thats how you want to look at it fine. The idea of giving you the anarchy you crave is abhorrent to me. I oppose Gun control. I beleive you should be able to own an Assualt Rifle, but if you use it on another human, then the right to hang you with barb wire shall be researved by the state. Tongue

     How is that any different from saying people should be able to own violent pornography, but if they then go out & rape someone they should be hanged with barbed wire? Just asking. Tongue

You got him there.

He hasn't got sh**t. A gun can have positive uses, pornography is just pornography.  Plus don't forget that unlike libertarians who apply a broad philosophy to all issues, I have a set of issues that I have a firm position on regardless of ideology, many don't fit neatly on the partisan scale, like immigration.

Besides shouldn't it be handled by the regions anyway? And if this bill passes doesn't it violate Regional rights? Now whose got who? Grin

     Ah, I forgot that things needed to have a positive use for the government to be able to consider gracing people with the chance of owning them. Tongue It seems that you forget that in the paradigm of free market economics any item that somebody is willing to buy has a positive use, even if it doesn't actually do anything substantial.

     Also, I don't think that I would characterize holding ideologically contradictory views as being a positive thing compared to, say, applying a coherent philosophy to all issues. But maybe I'm just a crazy Libertarian for subscribing to the coherence theory of truth. Grin

So you admit to your crime. Tongue Broad ideologies are foolish. I prefer a basket of issue positions, then a broad ideology. Don't be confused though, as you have noticed I am very "ideological" about those issues.

Anyway, would you really rather have an Assualt Rifle, then porn? Tongue
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« Reply #1165 on: September 22, 2009, 10:29:22 pm »
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Economic score: +2.19
Social score: -1.57


Economic score: +1.55
Social score: -4.17

Cause for Concern?
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« Reply #1166 on: September 22, 2009, 10:30:12 pm »
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Economic score: +2.19
Social score: -1.57


Economic score: +1.55
Social score: -4.17

Cause for Concern?

No. As long as the avi is blue you're fine
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« Reply #1167 on: September 22, 2009, 10:32:31 pm »
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Economic score: +2.19
Social score: -1.57


Economic score: +1.55
Social score: -4.17

Cause for Concern?

No. As long as the avi is blue you're fine

Thought so. One of the reasons I'm GOP is democrats.
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« Reply #1168 on: September 22, 2009, 10:33:08 pm »
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Economic score: +2.19
Social score: -1.57


Economic score: +1.55
Social score: -4.17

Cause for Concern?

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« Reply #1169 on: September 22, 2009, 10:51:58 pm »
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     Okay, I took the test again.

Economic: +8.39 --> +8.90
Social: -7.48 --> -8.35
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« Reply #1170 on: September 22, 2009, 10:57:30 pm »
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I don't like these new scores because it makes it like I am a populist which I am not. I still support Social Security Privatisation, lower taxes, less regulation, and am anti-Union. I however support subsidizing low income health care, more money for education, and the minimum wage.

New
Economic score: +3.16
Social score: +6.17


Old
PM Economic:  4.26
PM Social:  3.65

welcome to The religious Right's side

My views haven't changed. I have been a social conservative for over three years now. What changed was the importance and whethere I rated it Stongly Agree/Disagree-or just Agree/Disagree.

Where I have changed has been economics where I have gone slightly to the left.



Another thing you should remember is that I am very secular, this fact will make people think less of me when they realise that the only reason I am social conservative is not because of religion but because I think people need to be restrained for the order of society and order is as important as freedom to me.

Why?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Despite disagreeing, the position is completely understandable. No need for a "why?".

To me this so-called "order" social conservatives want sounds more like "control". Seriously the only thing missing from the socialcon's agenda that prevents them from being full on control freaks is gun control, and even then there are quite a few of them that do embrace it.

If thats how you want to look at it fine. The idea of giving you the anarchy you crave is abhorrent to me. I oppose Gun control. I beleive you should be able to own an Assualt Rifle, but if you use it on another human, then the right to hang you with barb wire shall be researved by the state. Tongue

     How is that any different from saying people should be able to own violent pornography, but if they then go out & rape someone they should be hanged with barbed wire? Just asking. Tongue

You got him there.

He hasn't got sh**t. A gun can have positive uses, pornography is just pornography.  Plus don't forget that unlike libertarians who apply a broad philosophy to all issues, I have a set of issues that I have a firm position on regardless of ideology, many don't fit neatly on the partisan scale, like immigration.

Besides shouldn't it be handled by the regions anyway? And if this bill passes doesn't it violate Regional rights? Now whose got who? Grin

     Ah, I forgot that things needed to have a positive use for the government to be able to consider gracing people with the chance of owning them. Tongue It seems that you forget that in the paradigm of free market economics any item that somebody is willing to buy has a positive use, even if it doesn't actually do anything substantial.

     Also, I don't think that I would characterize holding ideologically contradictory views as being a positive thing compared to, say, applying a coherent philosophy to all issues. But maybe I'm just a crazy Libertarian for subscribing to the coherence theory of truth. Grin

So you admit to your crime. Tongue Broad ideologies are foolish. I prefer a basket of issue positions, then a broad ideology. Don't be confused though, as you have noticed I am very "ideological" about those issues.

Anyway, would you really rather have an Assualt Rifle, then porn? Tongue

     Well if you are okay with holding contradictory views, that's your business. I personally would rather have an assault rifle, but I don't approve of allowing or disallowing items based on which ones I want to have, you see. Wink
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« Reply #1171 on: September 22, 2009, 11:01:19 pm »
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I don't like these new scores because it makes it like I am a populist which I am not. I still support Social Security Privatisation, lower taxes, less regulation, and am anti-Union. I however support subsidizing low income health care, more money for education, and the minimum wage.

New
Economic score: +3.16
Social score: +6.17


Old
PM Economic:  4.26
PM Social:  3.65

welcome to The religious Right's side

My views haven't changed. I have been a social conservative for over three years now. What changed was the importance and whethere I rated it Stongly Agree/Disagree-or just Agree/Disagree.

Where I have changed has been economics where I have gone slightly to the left.



Another thing you should remember is that I am very secular, this fact will make people think less of me when they realise that the only reason I am social conservative is not because of religion but because I think people need to be restrained for the order of society and order is as important as freedom to me.

Why?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Despite disagreeing, the position is completely understandable. No need for a "why?".

To me this so-called "order" social conservatives want sounds more like "control". Seriously the only thing missing from the socialcon's agenda that prevents them from being full on control freaks is gun control, and even then there are quite a few of them that do embrace it.

If thats how you want to look at it fine. The idea of giving you the anarchy you crave is abhorrent to me. I oppose Gun control. I beleive you should be able to own an Assualt Rifle, but if you use it on another human, then the right to hang you with barb wire shall be researved by the state. Tongue

     How is that any different from saying people should be able to own violent pornography, but if they then go out & rape someone they should be hanged with barbed wire? Just asking. Tongue

You got him there.

He hasn't got sh**t. A gun can have positive uses, pornography is just pornography.  Plus don't forget that unlike libertarians who apply a broad philosophy to all issues, I have a set of issues that I have a firm position on regardless of ideology, many don't fit neatly on the partisan scale, like immigration.

Besides shouldn't it be handled by the regions anyway? And if this bill passes doesn't it violate Regional rights? Now whose got who? Grin

     Ah, I forgot that things needed to have a positive use for the government to be able to consider gracing people with the chance of owning them. Tongue It seems that you forget that in the paradigm of free market economics any item that somebody is willing to buy has a positive use, even if it doesn't actually do anything substantial.

     Also, I don't think that I would characterize holding ideologically contradictory views as being a positive thing compared to, say, applying a coherent philosophy to all issues. But maybe I'm just a crazy Libertarian for subscribing to the coherence theory of truth. Grin

So you admit to your crime. Tongue Broad ideologies are foolish. I prefer a basket of issue positions, then a broad ideology. Don't be confused though, as you have noticed I am very "ideological" about those issues.

Anyway, would you really rather have an Assualt Rifle, then porn? Tongue

     Well if you are okay with holding contradictory views, that's your business. I personally would rather have an assault rifle, but I don't approve of allowing or disallowing items based on which ones I want to have, you see. Wink

Well if it's between a free assault rifle or free porno, then I would choose the free assault rifle. Otherwise I would go with porno because it's cheaper.
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« Reply #1172 on: September 22, 2009, 11:02:34 pm »
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Took the test again,

Economic: +7.03
Social: -9.83

Damn, I'm returning to my psycho lunatic libertarian roots!
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« Reply #1173 on: September 23, 2009, 12:22:24 am »
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Now for a look at my historical PM ratings:

Quote from: Mechman date=sometime between June 4th and June 27th
Economic score: 8.84
Social score: -10.00

I am a super capitalist and a social far leftist
Sometime between my first and second updates I took the test and didn’t post the test results. I believe I had this:

Economic Score: 7.92
Social Score: -9.91

Just took PM again.
Social Score: Still -10.00 (I'm dead serious, I can't get it lower!)
Economics: Back up to 8.84

It's official: I'M WELL INTO THE REGION OF ANARCHIST.

Took the PM test again.

Social score: Still -10.00
Economic score: Down to 6.65?

Holy crap guys, I think I'm trending left on economics.

Took it again.
Still trending left on economics, wow.

Social: -10.00
Economic: 6.52

Social Score: Still -10.00
Economic Score: 6.26

Trended left a little on Economics. Probably due to my views on unions.

Took the test again:

Social: -10.00 (I doubt this would change anytime soon)
Economic: 7.68 (drifting back towards my anarcho capitalist roots)

Just retook the test. Wow, it's unbelievable how different my economic score is just because I unchecked the box on a few questions.

Social: -10.00 (still no changes bitches, this is a legit score)
Economic: 5.23 (damn, my drift back towards anarcho captialism died off quick)

Holy sh*t:

Economic Score: 6.39
Social Score: -9.49

E=5.42
S=-9.18

I am succombing to moralfaggotry:

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Highest social score yet

Update

Social: -9.65
Economic: 6.00

Weird, I could've sworn I was getting more left on economic issues.

Took the test again,

Economic: +7.03
Social: -9.83

Damn, I'm returning to my psycho lunatic libertarian roots!
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« Reply #1174 on: September 23, 2009, 04:45:32 pm »
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Economic score: +0.13
Social score: -2.26

Economic score: -0.9
Social score: -3.3

Lowest social score ever!
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