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« on: December 23, 2006, 06:57:30 PM »

Let's suppose you have two kids, a son and a daughter, each about 13 years old, and they are asking you about sex for the first time.  What do you say to them?  How would you teach them about sex, and how graphic (or not) would you be going about it? 
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2006, 07:13:58 PM »

Do what my dad did....hand me two porn tapes and let him know if I have any questions. Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2006, 07:35:04 PM »

Do what my dad did....hand me two porn tapes and let him know if I have any questions. Tongue

That explains a lot. . .
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2006, 08:58:16 PM »

Do what my dad did....hand me two porn tapes and let him know if I have any questions. Tongue

I'm hoping you didn't have any questions.  Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2006, 09:00:32 PM »

Do what my dad did....hand me two porn tapes and let him know if I have any questions. Tongue

I'm hoping you didn't have any questions.  Tongue

"Daddy, why does that person on the bottom not have a penis?  Is she deformed?"
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2006, 10:45:14 PM »

Do what my dad did....hand me two porn tapes and let him know if I have any questions. Tongue

I'm hoping you didn't have any questions.  Tongue

"Daddy, why does that person on the bottom not have a penis?  Is she deformed?"

Well one of the tapes was a lesbian scene...
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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2006, 10:50:11 PM »

Do what my dad did....hand me two porn tapes and let him know if I have any questions. Tongue

I'm hoping you didn't have any questions.  Tongue

"Daddy, why does that person on the bottom not have a penis?  Is she deformed?"

Well one of the tapes was a lesbian scene...

"Well, Donald, there are birds and bees, and there are some birds that like to have hot bird-on-bird action with other birds."
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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2006, 10:55:39 PM »
« Edited: December 23, 2006, 10:57:54 PM by Frodo »

Would anyone here (except Dazzleman and htmldon who have already done so) actually try to answer the topic question? 

Thanks.
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2006, 02:50:36 AM »

Somehow I went through adolescence without having this talk with my father. I guess I was just to embrassed to ever bring it up, but I never really had any questions to begin with.
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2006, 04:54:32 AM »

Would anyone here (except Dazzleman and htmldon who have already done so) actually try to answer the topic question? 

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Don't know about you, but at 13, I pretty much already knew the mechanics.  Wink

I'd ask them if they wanted the sex talk.  I'd tell them that if they have sex without a condom or whore themselves, I'd kill them dead.  I'd offer to talk to them about anything they want.  I'd tell them that it doesn't matter the hole; if bodily fluids are touching genitals, it's sex.  That pretty much covers it.
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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2006, 05:18:30 AM »

I'd talk through the mechanics, and the need for a healthy relationship but place emphasis on safe sex and on other types of sexual acts, such as oral sex, which is a preferable and less reisky sort of 'release' than vaginal intercourse. And yes I would discuss gay 'sex', simply to the extent that there are people out there who love the same sex and that there is nothing wrong or shamfeul in that.
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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2006, 12:36:36 PM »

I would tell my kids that sex involves "picking someone else's nose" (and yes, I would use the quotation mark hand gestures) and then let them work it out for themselves.
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2006, 04:43:59 PM »

Somehow I went through adolescence without having this talk with my father. I guess I was just to embrassed to ever bring it up, but I never really had any questions to begin with.

I don't see why anyone has "the talk" with sex ed in schools like it is now.  Learning it from a teacher in a classroom setting is much less uncomfortable than learning it from someone you actually know would be.
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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2006, 04:54:32 PM »

Somehow I went through adolescence without having this talk with my father. I guess I was just to embrassed to ever bring it up, but I never really had any questions to begin with.

I don't see why anyone has "the talk" with sex ed in schools like it is now.  Learning it from a teacher in a classroom setting is much less uncomfortable than learning it from someone you actually know would be.

I never had any real sex ed in school.
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2006, 05:00:30 PM »

Somehow I went through adolescence without having this talk with my father. I guess I was just to embrassed to ever bring it up, but I never really had any questions to begin with.

I don't see why anyone has "the talk" with sex ed in schools like it is now.  Learning it from a teacher in a classroom setting is much less uncomfortable than learning it from someone you actually know would be.

I never had any real sex ed in school.

Luckily, my school is rich enough to be able to forgo the federal sex ed funding (which is for abstinence only Tongue) and teach us real information.  It doesn't quite go to the peak of inclusion (like no instructions on condom application or anything), but I suppose some things are too risque for the rich suburban taxpayers around here Wink
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« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2006, 05:43:49 PM »

Would anyone here (except Dazzleman and htmldon who have already done so) actually try to answer the topic question? 

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Don't know about you, but at 13, I pretty much already knew the mechanics.  Wink

Good for you -I lived a life so sheltered that it wasn't until 6th or 7th grade that I came to know the sexual anatomy of males and females.
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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2006, 05:53:40 PM »

Would anyone here (except Dazzleman and htmldon who have already done so) actually try to answer the topic question? 

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Don't know about you, but at 13, I pretty much already knew the mechanics.  Wink

Good for you -I lived a life so sheltered that it wasn't until 6th or 7th grade that I came to know the sexual anatomy of males and females.

You weren't aware of your own sexual anatomy? That's most strange.... and this comes from someone you can tell a thing or two about sheltered lives.

Of course the biggest problem with Sex education is deadbeat parents who refuse to teach their kids the facts of life - from an early age. All state-backed\school-led based sex-ed adds very little to what one already knows; at least from my experience (at 15; any earlier we would have a reality-defying outcry by the ultra-prudes and the Church.)
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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2006, 06:04:18 PM »
« Edited: December 24, 2006, 06:52:48 PM by Frodo »

Would anyone here (except Dazzleman and htmldon who have already done so) actually try to answer the topic question? 

Thanks.

Don't know about you, but at 13, I pretty much already knew the mechanics.  Wink

Good for you -I lived a life so sheltered that it wasn't until 6th or 7th grade that I came to know the sexual anatomy of males and females.

You weren't aware of your own sexual anatomy? That's most strange.... and this comes from someone you can tell a thing or two about sheltered lives.

I didn't know about it to the detail that the sex ed classes taught me -I knew basically that I had a penis (what my mother, for her own strange reasons, referred to as a 'tinkler').  That's about it.

I never got to see a woman naked -at least at an age I could appreciate it...   I once saw my maid (when we lived in Manila) stripped to the waist, topless, apparently when she was changing, but then I wasn't even twelve and in any case I averted my eyes within a split second -though I could have sworn she was smiling when she noticed me looking at her.  Tongue

It wasn't until 8th grade that I looked at porn for the first time originally to compensate for it, and to get a real-life visual for many of the stuff they mentioned with regard to girls' sexual anatomy.   

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« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2006, 06:07:43 PM »

There are two facets to sex ed -- teaching about the basic facts, and teaching about the deeper meaning of sex and the values that maximize the enjoyment of sex while minimizing the potential problems.

I would first address the mechanics, and I think the boy and the girl should get identical information in this respect, though there could be some difference in focus due to the obvious biological differences that could lead the boy to focus on some different issues than the girl would.

When it comes to the second facet, I think the conversation would have to be tailored to the sex of the child.  The boy would have to be reminded of the responsibilities that come from sex, and the need to make sure that he is not responsible for any child ending up with a deficient upbringing due to his irresponsibility.

A girl would have to be taught about the need to look out for her own best interests in relationships with boys, and not be coaxed into unprotected sex with a boy who will dump her if she gets pregnant.  She also needs to be taught about the responsibilities that come with sex, and how it is up to her to help secure the best circumstances for any children that she may have.

The analogy I would use about sex is to compare it to fire or water.  When controlled and used for their proper purpose, fire and water are essential to our lives, and enhance our lives tremendously.  When they are out of control and control us, and/or are used for purposes other than what they are intended for, they bring untold misery and grief.

So I guess the bottom line that I would try to teach them is -- control sex, don't let it control you, and use this gift wisely to enhance your life, and not foolishly in a way that will ruin or damage your life.  I'd probably try to point out some examples that they could relate to of each.

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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2006, 06:11:23 PM »

Would anyone here (except Dazzleman and htmldon who have already done so) actually try to answer the topic question? 

Thanks.

Don't know about you, but at 13, I pretty much already knew the mechanics.  Wink

Good for you -I lived a life so sheltered that it wasn't until 6th or 7th grade that I came to know the sexual anatomy of males and females.

You weren't aware of your own sexual anatomy? That's most strange.... and this comes from someone you can tell a thing or two about sheltered lives.

I didn't know about it to the detail that the sex ed classes taught me -I knew basically that I had a penis (what my mother, for her own strange reasons, referred to as a 'tinkler').  That's about it.

I never got to see a woman naked -at least at an age I could appreciate it...   I once saw my maid (when we lived in Manila) stripped to the waist, topless, apparently when she was changing, but then I wasn't even twelve and in any case I averted my eyes within a split second -though I could have sworn she was smiling when I looked at her. 

It wasn't until 8th grade that I looked at porn for the first time originally to compensate for it, and to get a real-life visual for many of the stuff they mentioned with regard to girls' sexual anatomy.   

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Ain't that the truth.  Tongue

Yeah, I was pretty much ignoring the rest of the thread; just your comment was sort of, well, interesting. I just wanted to have excuse to rant against the great many Deadbeat parents I know around here.

Great post Dazzleman, btw. I totally agree with that.
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« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2006, 07:02:47 PM »

I wish Sex Ed would talk about the dangers of Gay Sex everywhere.

Believe me, I Have Nothing Against Gays but Gay Sex is VERY dangerous and it hurts like hell.... so I ask that everyone refrains from doing it!

So are you saying that straight couples shouldn't have oral or anal sex?
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« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2006, 07:20:35 PM »

I wish Sex Ed would talk about the dangers of Gay Sex everywhere.

Believe me, I Have Nothing Against Gays but Gay Sex is VERY dangerous and it hurts like hell.... so I ask that everyone refrains from doing it!

So are you saying that straight couples shouldn't have oral or anal sex?

There are also many that enjoy a bit of pain in their pleasure.
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« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2006, 07:53:12 PM »

I wish Sex Ed would talk about the dangers of Gay Sex everywhere.

Believe me, I Have Nothing Against Gays but Gay Sex is VERY dangerous and it hurts like hell.... so I ask that everyone refrains from doing it!

How is it very dangerous?  Having sex with someone who has STDs is dangerous.  Having sex with someone who doesn't is not, save for the danger of pregnancy.  Gay sex also comes with the added bonus of not even having the danger of pregnancy, so it's actually even safer than vaginal sex.
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« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2006, 08:07:10 PM »

There is an even higher chance of getting STD's with gay sex. But your right, you can not get pregnant with gay sex.. but believe me, i know it hurts badly.. so thats why i dont do it.

Of course there's a higher chance of getting them from someone who does, but you can't get STDs from someone who doesn't have them.  The message should be "don't have sex with people with STDs", not "don't have gay sex".

I'm not going to ask how you know that gay sex hurts a lot.
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« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2006, 08:24:49 PM »

My Message:

No matter how nice that dudes ass is, Do not have sex with him if he he STD's. In fact, even straight people should make sure that their partners do not have sex with STD infected people, and always use a condom, you don't want to get unwanted pregnancies, cause If I ruled the world Abortions would be illegal, and adoption would be the only way you could get rid of them.

***Note I do support some abortions for special circumstances

James

Um, this has nothing to do with anal sex and everything to do with not having sex with people that have STDs.  Which is a good policy of course.
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