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minionofmidas
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« on: January 07, 2007, 09:12:33 AM »

Same problem in all first world nations except the US, as far as I know.

Well, of course, education and a high standard of living is the cure for overpopulation. In defense of the US, our population growth is primarily due to immigration.
This is not true - the USA has a higher birth rate than all EU countries except Ireland and a much higher than the EU average. Also, in addition of Ireland only Moldova and Albania have a higher birthrate than the US.
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2054rank.html

Moldova and Albania have lower birthrates than the US. Only Ireland, Turkey and Iceland have higher birthrates than the US.

Try this source instead for European 2005 data:

http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cache/ITY_OFFPUB/KS-NK-06-016/EN/KS-NK-06-016-EN.PDF

The birth rate in the US was 14.0 per 1.000 in 2005, but there are big differences between the 50 States.

Utah had the highest birthrate at 20.8 (which is higher than Turkey) and Vermont the lowest at 10.3 (which is in line with European rates). Most New England and "Kerry" states have "European style" birth rates, while the West and South (Texas, Arizona, etc.) have very high ones.
The CIA World Factbook is frequently inaccurate.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2007, 08:32:05 AM »
« Edited: January 08, 2007, 08:33:55 AM by Everything is not enough, and nothing is too much to bear »

The American birthrate is quite low among reasonably well-off whites - in other words people who correspond to Europeans.  The reason the overall birthrate is so high in the US is because of very large numbers of desperately poor whites and of course even larger numbers of extremely disadvantaged minority people.
I would assume the main reason is a more favorable system of tax breaks meself...
That certainly is the main reason France has a much healthier birth rate than Germany.

And then again, there's also a somewhat larger contingent of people who are absolutely nuts and prefer to show this by breeding like rabbits. How many kids does Rick Renzi have again? 16?
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2007, 04:42:08 PM »

The US has recently seen the start of a wave of euros leaving Europe for here.
LOL No. Some small scale continued European emigration to the US (mostly highskilled), and some even smaller scale US emigration to Europe (also mostly highskilled) has simply never ceased, and occasionally leads to sensationalist and fairly stupid media reports.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2007, 08:09:45 AM »

The US has recently seen the start of a wave of euros leaving Europe for here.
LOL No. Some small scale continued European emigration to the US (mostly highskilled), and some even smaller scale US emigration to Europe (also mostly highskilled) has simply never ceased, and occasionally leads to sensationalist and fairly stupid media reports.
But its been increasing lately. Explain that. I see ALOT more coming in a few decades with young people wanting to not have to be in a place where pension taxes keep on going up. The US has issues with social security yes but nothing compared to Europe's issues.
Proof?
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