Words versus deeds

[MODU]

Just for clarification:  " To secure our border, we're doubling the size of the Border Patrol, and funding new infrastructure and technology. Yet even with all these steps, we cannot fully secure the border unless we take pressure off the border – and that requires a temporary worker program."

We're = we are, as in presently.

He didn't say "we doubled."  If I remember correctly, the doubling process is suppose to be completed by the end of 2007, and it was started in mid 2006.

[MODU]

Nope. 

[MODU]

I love how you constantly use "assertion" in many of your posts.  Is that the word of the day off of one of those dictionary calendars?  Let's see what your little calendar says:  "to state or declare positively and often forcefully or aggressively."  Sounds more like your style than mine.  Anyway, there is no need to.  The goal hasn't changed.  Just because it's been a slow process doesn't make the goal any less of value. 

Feeling better about yourself now?  No?  I can hook you up with Miss Catholic.  The two of you have a lot in common.  Maybe you'll find happiness in her company.

[MODU]

hahaha . . . whatever makes you feel better about yourself.  Last time I checked, we can't force people to be border patrol agents, nor just hand them a set of car keys and say "patrol" without training. 

[MODU]

May I infer that you wouldn't be happy even if the border patrol was doubled?  Since you choose to ignore that Bush has NOT stated that he will not now double the border, but rather the fact that people are not wanting to be border agents and/or they have not completed training, simply shows that you are not continuing this discussion after three months because a policy has changed but because you are trying to find some personal glee from the lack of desire by the US public for not quitting their lives to stand on the border.  You are a sorry individual.

[MODU]

Whatever son.  Just because you haven't quit your job yet to become a border patrol agent, along with a bunch of other people, doesn't mean the goal of doubling the number of agents has been scrapped.  You really need to get over yourself.

[MODU]

In short, its not a lack of applicants that is the problem, but rather an inability to meet the previously stated goal.

Which doesn't discount the goal, which you seem to fail to understand.  But I doubt that would matter to you anyway.  You aren't going to be happy until you get exactly what you want.  I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that isn't reality.

[MODU]

Again, are you asserting that the Bush administration still has as the "goal" the doubling of Border Patrol personnel?

No, I am "stating" that the goal is in place.  You are the one "asserting" that the goal has changed.  Until you find something showing that he has changed that goal, quit wasting our time with this.  And change your calendar already.  "Asserting" was yesterday's word, and you are still using it wrong.

[MODU]

Again you come off as being a jackass without posting information on it first.  Since I haven't seen the source you referenced, how would I be able to comment on it accurately?  All I got from you was "In light of recent developments..."  Now, if you would please be so kind as to provide the source of what you are talking about, then I might be able to discuss something with you.  And in the future, provide a basis/source for your attacks.

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And let me just add one thing.  If you go back to where the 2008 goal comes from (HR 5441), and note the speech made by the President at the signing of said bill, you will see where the "double" comes from.

We have increased the number of Border Patrol agents from about 9,000 to 12,000.   ....   The bill also supports our efforts to increase the number of Border Patrol agents to about 18,000 by the end of 2008.

"President Bush Signs Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act"

So look, if you can't handle that, then that's fine.  No one here really gives a damn.  However, you've got to get off you high horse and quit harassing those that don't agree with you.  The goal is to double the force to 18K by the end of 2008.  They might make it, they might not.  No one knows.  Now if that doesn't meet your desires, call your representative and take it up with him/her.  This debate has been finalized for all I care (reference the material above).  Now, if you've got something better, then please, by all means provide the necessary quotes and link while trying to make your case.  Otherwise, quit wasting mine/everyone's time.

[MODU]

Whatever Mr. Verba non acta.

[MODU]

Whatever Mr. Verba non acta.

So, will you give a mea culpa when Bush leaves office and there are NOT 18,000 Border Patrol agents?

If the policy changes, then ok.  However, I don't see that happening.

[MODU]

Excuse me, but I'm about reality, not pie in the sky promises.

When 2008 comes to an end and there are NOT 18,000 Border Parol agents, will you acknowledge that the promises made by Bush were false?

Considering this is legislation, not "Bush's promise," the answer is no, since I can't tell you if Congress is going to strip funding away from the Border Patrol.  The agreement is on the policy, since you're really only concerned about Bush "lying."  If the goal changes, then you get credit. 

[MODU]

No, the agreement is on the policy.  If the policy changes, then you get credit.  It is that simple.

[MODU]

If you are going to quibble, I'm not accepting.  Ciao.