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The Vorlon
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« on: July 05, 2004, 08:31:14 PM »
« edited: July 05, 2004, 11:34:34 PM by The Vorlon »

Rasmussen will indeed be spewing more garbage out all this week.

Their first state poll, compiled from the June robo-tracker:


California:
Kerry 52% Bush 38%


In the bizarre "we are waaay through the looking glass" world of the Rasmussen Robo Tracks, Bush losing 6% in Califiornia (now down 14% versus down 8% in May) is actually good news for the Bush people (if you ACTUALLY BELIEVE these Robo tracks)

Since this data from California is a subset of his national tracking poll, we know that taken together, all the state polls add up to the sum of his national track.

In May, Kerry won all 4 weeks of the poll:

May 27 44.9 45.3 K+0.4
May 20 44.3 44.8 K+0.5
May 13 45.6 46.0 K+0.4
May 6 44.1 45.9 K+1.8

But California is so big it is just about 10% of the nation, so if Bush lost California by 8% in May, he must have been tied in the rest of the nation to end up with a 0.75% loss nationally.

By contrast in June, the weekly tracks showed:

July 1 45.6 45.5 B+0.1
June 24 45.2 46.2 K+1.0
June 17 45.6 46.0 K+0.4
June 10 45.9 44.6 B+1.3
June 3 45.4 44.1 B+1.3

Lets call it Bush +0.2% for the month

Basically dead even, BUT since Bush lost california bigger than in June and improved 0.95% nationally.. he must have won the rest of the nation by 2.0% or so... which means in states other than California, Bush will show an average inprovement of 2% or so in the state by state Rasmussen Robo polls. Smiley

Of course this assumes the robo track has any value of any kind.

One thing the above anyalsis proves beyond a shadow of a doubt is that I crunch waaay to many numbers and should go get a beer before my brain explodes Smiley




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The Vorlon
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2004, 11:21:21 PM »
« Edited: July 05, 2004, 11:22:24 PM by The Vorlon »

These robo-tracks are pretty useless IMHO.

The "zero sum" effect is a bit strange.

We know that all his June state robo-tracks add up to a dead heat,as they are the parts that make up the National track whole.

The "changes" from state to state are random noise.

In reality you will almost never gain 4% in state X, while at the same time losing 4% in State Y.

If a candidate gains 5%, the states all move +/- 5%.  It might be 3% or it might be 7%, but the "tide" goes in the same direction regardless of where you are.

There are ALWAYS exceptions (WV in 2000 for example) but the tide goes the same way 99% of the time.

The "Robo Track" state polls are random Noise IMHO.

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