NJ-SEN 2024: Draggin' The Line (3/24: Murphy OUT)
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« Reply #925 on: March 27, 2024, 04:58:32 PM »

I’m never voting for Norcross again, I can’t stand him. I’ll never vote GOP, I’ll leave it blank or write in somebody.
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« Reply #926 on: March 27, 2024, 05:00:36 PM »





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« Reply #927 on: March 27, 2024, 05:21:36 PM »

I wasn't a fan of Murphy and strongly wanted Kim to win.

But I'd have no problem with her winning a house seat.

Her lack of a record made electing her to the senate a risky proposition. Let her earn her stripes in the House.
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« Reply #928 on: March 27, 2024, 09:13:57 PM »

I wasn't a fan of Murphy and strongly wanted Kim to win.

But I'd have no problem with her winning a house seat.

Her lack of a record made electing her to the senate a risky proposition. Let her earn her stripes in the House.

Yeah, the House is small potatoes enough that I don't really mind it. And I never really had a problem with her specifically, I was just bothered by the machine politics/nepotism aspect.
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« Reply #929 on: March 27, 2024, 09:26:25 PM »

I wasn't a fan of Murphy and strongly wanted Kim to win.

But I'd have no problem with her winning a house seat.

Her lack of a record made electing her to the senate a risky proposition. Let her earn her stripes in the House.

She could have easily been in line to get Pallone’s seat. Now she’s likely ruined her chances at that and that seat is honestly Vin Gopal’s if he wants it.

Also if the bosses they really wanted a white suburban woman in that Senate seat so bad they could have gone with Sherrill.
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« Reply #930 on: March 27, 2024, 10:16:37 PM »

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« Reply #931 on: March 27, 2024, 11:33:18 PM »

I wasn't a fan of Murphy and strongly wanted Kim to win.

But I'd have no problem with her winning a house seat.

Her lack of a record made electing her to the senate a risky proposition. Let her earn her stripes in the House.

She could have easily been in line to get Pallone’s seat. Now she’s likely ruined her chances at that and that seat is honestly Vin Gopal’s if he wants it.

Also if the bosses they really wanted a white suburban woman in that Senate seat so bad they could have gone with Sherrill.
Did they really want a white woman or were they just going along with Tammy so as not to piss off the governor?
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« Reply #932 on: March 28, 2024, 06:54:22 AM »

I wasn't a fan of Murphy and strongly wanted Kim to win.

But I'd have no problem with her winning a house seat.

Her lack of a record made electing her to the senate a risky proposition. Let her earn her stripes in the House.

She could have easily been in line to get Pallone’s seat. Now she’s likely ruined her chances at that and that seat is honestly Vin Gopal’s if he wants it.

Also if the bosses they really wanted a white suburban woman in that Senate seat so bad they could have gone with Sherrill.

Wasn't NJ-03 supposed to be a Troy Singleton coronation 'til both Herb Conaway & Carol Murphy said they were interested too?
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« Reply #933 on: March 28, 2024, 09:03:18 AM »

I wasn't a fan of Murphy and strongly wanted Kim to win.

But I'd have no problem with her winning a house seat.

Her lack of a record made electing her to the senate a risky proposition. Let her earn her stripes in the House.

She could have easily been in line to get Pallone’s seat. Now she’s likely ruined her chances at that and that seat is honestly Vin Gopal’s if he wants it.

Also if the bosses they really wanted a white suburban woman in that Senate seat so bad they could have gone with Sherrill.

Wasn't NJ-03 supposed to be a Troy Singleton coronation 'til both Herb Conaway & Carol Murphy said they were interested too?

Well Singleton didn’t even end up running.
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« Reply #934 on: March 28, 2024, 09:38:50 AM »

Also if the bosses they really wanted a white suburban woman in that Senate seat so bad they could have gone with Sherrill.

I really like Sherrill. If she ran against Andy, I’d have been genuinely undecided.
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« Reply #935 on: March 28, 2024, 06:54:38 PM »

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« Reply #936 on: March 29, 2024, 11:09:17 AM »

The Menendez mistrial really did change NJ politics forever. We just didn't know it yet:

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« Reply #937 on: March 29, 2024, 11:24:09 AM »

DEATH TO THE MACHINES
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« Reply #938 on: March 29, 2024, 11:39:37 AM »

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« Reply #939 on: March 29, 2024, 11:48:13 AM »

QURAISHI MUADDIB
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« Reply #940 on: March 29, 2024, 12:18:23 PM »

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« Reply #941 on: March 29, 2024, 12:29:36 PM »

So hypothetically speaking, if the line case makes it all the way to SCOTUS, how would they likely rule?
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« Reply #942 on: March 29, 2024, 01:55:01 PM »

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« Reply #943 on: March 29, 2024, 02:07:17 PM »

So hypothetically speaking, if the line case makes it all the way to SCOTUS, how would they likely rule?

Their 2000 case ruling the partisan blanket primary (which had been used in WA for nearly 65 years) unconstitutional, Cal. Democratic Party v. Jones, points to them taking a dim view of a viewpoint-discriminatory law like the Line that severely burdens associational rights to the extent that the victims - like Kim & his co-plaintiffs - suffer irreparable injury to their own corollary 1st Amendment right to not associate.
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« Reply #944 on: March 29, 2024, 02:40:06 PM »

So hypothetically speaking, if the line case makes it all the way to SCOTUS, how would they likely rule?

Their 2000 case ruling the partisan blanket primary (which had been used in WA for nearly 65 years) unconstitutional, Cal. Democratic Party v. Jones, points to them taking a dim view of a viewpoint-discriminatory law like the Line that severely burdens associational rights to the extent that the victims - like Kim & his co-plaintiffs - suffer irreparable injury to their own corollary 1st Amendment right to not associate.

Just out of curiosity: why isn't the current primary system in California violating that decision?
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« Reply #945 on: March 29, 2024, 03:30:55 PM »

So hypothetically speaking, if the line case makes it all the way to SCOTUS, how would they likely rule?

Their 2000 case ruling the partisan blanket primary (which had been used in WA for nearly 65 years) unconstitutional, Cal. Democratic Party v. Jones, points to them taking a dim view of a viewpoint-discriminatory law like the Line that severely burdens associational rights to the extent that the victims - like Kim & his co-plaintiffs - suffer irreparable injury to their own corollary 1st Amendment right to not associate.

Just out of curiosity: why isn't the current primary system in California violating that decision?

The old system was an open-to-all-voters partisan blanket primary where the top candidate per party went to the general election while the new system is an open-to-all-voters nonpartisan blanket primary that isn't prohibited from resulting in same-party general election matchups & so doesn't force parties to put up with nominees who've been partially selected by people who are wholly unloyal to the party (compared to states with traditional open primaries, where if you opt to vote in a party's primary, you at least can't still vote in another party's primary).
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« Reply #946 on: March 29, 2024, 06:24:20 PM »

“Not enough time to print the ballots” is a reasonable argument. “The ballots will be unfamiliar” is not.
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« Reply #947 on: March 29, 2024, 08:30:38 PM »

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« Reply #948 on: March 29, 2024, 08:56:43 PM »


it's the desperate thrashing of a machine in death throes.
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« Reply #949 on: March 29, 2024, 09:29:46 PM »

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