The Iraq war vote today

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On Oct. 11, 2002, 21 Democrats, Jeffords, and Chaffee voted no on the war. 29 Democrats and 48 Republicans voted aye.

Here's the status of those voting for Democratic leadership today.

16 Voted no and still in the Senate
Akaka (D-HI)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Conrad (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wyden (D-OR)

6 Voted no and retired or died:
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN)
Graham (D-FL)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Wellstone (D-MN)

0 Voted no and were defeated

21 Voted yes and still in the Senate
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT) (defeated in primary)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Schumer (D-NY)


5 Voted yes and retired:
Breaux (D-LA)
Edwards (D-NC)
Hollings (D-SC)
Miller (D-GA)
Torricelli (D-NJ) (was trailing in the polls)

3 Voted yes and was defeated:
Carnahan (D-MO)
Cleland (D-GA)
Daschle (D-SD)

4 New Senators who voted no in House:
Bob Menendez (D-NJ)
Ben Cardin (D-MD)
Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
Sherrod Brown (D-OH)

0 New Senators who voted yes in House

10 New Senators who didn't vote on it:
Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Mark Pryor (D-AR)
Barack Obama (D-IL)
Ken Salazar (D-CO)
Bob Casey (D-PA)
Jim Webb (D-VA)
Claire McCaskill (D-MO)
Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)
Jon Tester (D-MT)

The split has gone from 29-22 to 21-16, or if you count those who voted in the House, it's now 21-20.

[12th Doctor]

So.... do you really only care about one issue, or do you realize that there is more going on... and that this is a wider issue than you seem to give it credit for.


I'm not trying to be an asshole, but you post constantly about the War.  No one likes that we are still over there, but you seem to use any news you can get ahole of that is even remotley negative to use it for your case.  What happened happened... that's the way it happened.  Best we can do now is make the best of what happened.

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So.... do you really only care about one issue, or do you realize that there is more going on... and that this is a wider issue than you seem to give it credit for.


I'm not trying to be an asshole, but you post constantly about the War.  No one likes that we are still over there, but you seem to use any news you can get ahole of that is even remotley negative to use it for your case.  What happened happened... that's the way it happened.  Best we can do now is make the best of what happened.

No, I care about plenty of other issues, but only warmongers write off the Iraq war "as just one issue".

[12th Doctor]

So.... do you really only care about one issue, or do you realize that there is more going on... and that this is a wider issue than you seem to give it credit for.


I'm not trying to be an asshole, but you post constantly about the War.  No one likes that we are still over there, but you seem to use any news you can get ahole of that is even remotley negative to use it for your case.  What happened happened... that's the way it happened.  Best we can do now is make the best of what happened.

No, I care about plenty of other issues, but only warmongers write off the Iraq war "as just one issue".

Yeah... well, I have a friend and a neighbor who were both just shipped over there again so I really don't wanna hear about how I am supposedly a warmonger because I look at the War in sensible terms as opposed to just thinking that "Bush lied... people died"... "The original cause wasn't true, so we should pack up and leave NOW" etc.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

So.... do you really only care about one issue, or do you realize that there is more going on... and that this is a wider issue than you seem to give it credit for.


I'm not trying to be an asshole, but you post constantly about the War.  No one likes that we are still over there, but you seem to use any news you can get ahole of that is even remotley negative to use it for your case.  What happened happened... that's the way it happened.  Best we can do now is make the best of what happened.

No, I care about plenty of other issues, but only warmongers write off the Iraq war "as just one issue".

Yeah... well, I have a friend and a neighbor who were both just shipped over there again so I really don't wanna hear about how I am supposedly a warmonger because I look at the War in sensible terms as opposed to just thinking that "Bush lied... people died"... "The original cause wasn't true, so we should pack up and leave NOW" etc.

WTF is sensible about this war, warmonger? Your views are batsh**t insane.