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« on: February 27, 2007, 02:53:56 AM »

I find polling to be idiotic since it forces politicans to be all things to all people. That and I'm generally against letting the people have the idea that their opinion matters.
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2007, 04:52:30 AM »

So generally you oppose democracy then right?  Those that don't normally vote in the actual election may not think their vote matters but those that do likely place a high value on their vote and feel like their vote matters.  So therefore, the majority of people who think they matter probably do matter at least a little since they are the ones who actually vote in the elections.
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2007, 08:57:28 AM »

Mob rule just leads to authoritarianism in the long run. Look at the rise of the religious right in the US.
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2007, 03:23:37 PM »

Mob rule just leads to authoritarianism in the long run. Look at the rise of the religious right in the US.

You're a worse authoritarian than any of them. Just because you want to bring your own subjective views about morality on others with violent means doesn't make y0u any better.
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2007, 12:23:54 PM »

So what if I am one? Unlike the fundies or the social engineering PC left or the jesse jackson/MeCHA minority 'rights'(read: supremacy) activists I am not hypocritical about my dreams for Empire and control.
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2007, 08:11:31 AM »

So what if I am one? Unlike the fundies or the social engineering PC left or the jesse jackson/MeCHA minority 'rights'(read: supremacy) activists I am not hypocritical about my dreams for Empire and control.

That just means they're smarter than you. Both Jesse Jackson and the Religious RIght has a lot more power than you have. So you're actually inferior to them by your own standards. But I guess you never thought of that?
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2007, 09:21:48 PM »

Trying so called logic about tpopulist support won't work on me. I'd build my empire over a mountain of skulls and a broken earth if need must. I really could care less about what the people think. Its either now or never for at least some of the west to survive(Europe is lost to Eurabia so no point in trying HERE). I suggest you save your attempts at things like that for people who'd be more likely to fall for it..
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2007, 10:11:00 PM »

I'd build my empire over a mountain of skulls and a broken earth if need must.

Generally you say that after you've accomplished your goals and when the police is not still able to stop you.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2007, 02:49:51 AM »

Trying so called logic about tpopulist support won't work on me. I'd build my empire over a mountain of skulls and a broken earth if need must.

That would be a lot more threatening if it actually meant something.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2007, 02:29:09 PM »

We don't ban polling because it's a matter of free speech.  Simple.
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2007, 04:01:02 PM »

Trying so called logic about tpopulist support won't work on me. I'd build my empire over a mountain of skulls and a broken earth if need must. I really could care less about what the people think. Its either now or never for at least some of the west to survive(Europe is lost to Eurabia so no point in trying HERE). I suggest you save your attempts at things like that for people who'd be more likely to fall for it..

Yeah, without logic and support you'll get real far in your empire building.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2007, 05:42:10 PM »

This thread is hilarious... what a great find.
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2008, 11:55:17 AM »

This thread is hilarious... what a great find.

It certainly is.
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2008, 04:44:35 PM »

Trying so called logic about tpopulist support won't work on me. I'd build my empire over a mountain of skulls and a broken earth if need must. I really could care less about what the people think. Its either now or never for at least some of the west to survive(Europe is lost to Eurabia so no point in trying HERE). I suggest you save your attempts at things like that for people who'd be more likely to fall for it..

Yeah, without logic and support you'll get real far in your empire building.

This is Straha, remember.
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2008, 05:59:13 AM »


     Quoted for truth. It's amazing how quickly Straha started ranting about wanting to take over the world. By his third post, he talks about his dreams of dictatorship. Good stuff. Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2008, 05:58:33 PM »

LOL. Classic Straha.

Worth noting though that some countries do ban publishing polls X amount of days before the election.
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2008, 06:04:49 PM »

LOL. Classic Straha.

Worth noting though that some countries do ban publishing polls X amount of days before the election.

Really? Can you give examples?
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2008, 08:34:18 PM »

In Italy it's illegal to publish polls less than two weeks before an election. In Mexico it's illegal to something like 4-5 days before it. I'm sure there's others.
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2008, 09:56:16 PM »

Even if we wanted to, we couldn't.  It violates the 1st Amendment.
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2008, 11:20:43 PM »

LOL. Classic Straha.

Worth noting though that some countries do ban publishing polls X amount of days before the election.

Really? Can you give examples?

Greece for like 2 months (or maybe weeks?) before voting.
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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2008, 09:38:38 AM »

LOL. Classic Straha.

Worth noting though that some countries do ban publishing polls X amount of days before the election.

Really? Can you give examples?

France has something like that, but it's like one or two days before the vote.
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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2008, 04:07:28 PM »


Oh my dear! I found that so hilarious that the tears came...

This said I agree on some points, I also think that our democracies are driving to populism, authoritarianism, and at the end I think the theocracies are really possible, and polls are an important tool of this movement but not the only one. I see it more as a psychological movement of the populations who live in these democracies, a movement caused by a lot of things.

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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2008, 02:30:13 AM »

I'd rather do a poll on banning.
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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2008, 02:24:01 PM »


     That would be fun. Smiley As long as no one is actually banned because of it.
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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2008, 10:44:12 AM »

Trade BRTD, Vander Blubb, Harry's bannings in exchange for me being freed.
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