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Question: How many more counties would Gore have won in your home state if Nader had not ran in 2000? (Assume that around 80-90% of Nader's vote would go to Gore)
0   -10 (35.7%)
1-2   -9 (32.1%)
2-3   -1 (3.6%)
3-5   -5 (17.9%)
6+   -3 (10.7%)
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« on: March 02, 2007, 12:19:24 am »
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I'm just curious as to how many counties were close enough that a change in votes for Nader going to Gore would have made gore the victor in the given county. In my home state of Washington Gore would have won 2 more counties.
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2007, 01:14:57 am »
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Same deal - Skagit and Whatcom
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2007, 02:44:00 am »
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In Kentucky, he would have won a whole bunch, because people hated Bush so much.
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In Kentucky, he would have won a whole bunch, because people hated Bush so much.

I think you misunderstand the question.  I looked it up for you - it's three (Greenup, Lyon and Rowan).
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2007, 03:27:44 am »
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I think you misunderstand the question.  I looked it up for you - it's three (Greenup, Lyon and Rowan).

Also Fayette for certain, and probably also Letcher (unless Gore actually carried it anyway).
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2007, 03:30:55 am »
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I think you misunderstand the question.  I looked it up for you - it's three (Greenup, Lyon and Rowan).

Also Fayette for certain, and probably also Letcher (unless Gore actually carried it anyway).

Incorrect.  Check the results.  Bush won Kentucky by a very comfortable margin, not much would have changed.

In Fayette for example:

Gore   44.8%   47,277   
 
Bush   51.7%   54,495   
 
Nader   2.9%   3,052   
 
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2007, 03:32:46 am »
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I think you misunderstand the question.  I looked it up for you - it's three (Greenup, Lyon and Rowan).

Also Fayette for certain, and probably also Letcher (unless Gore actually carried it anyway).

No...

Bush got 52.88% in Fayette and 52.96% in Letcher.
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2007, 03:36:22 am »
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I think you misunderstand the question.  I looked it up for you - it's three (Greenup, Lyon and Rowan).

Also Fayette for certain, and probably also Letcher (unless Gore actually carried it anyway).

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Bush got 52.88% in Fayette and 52.96% in Letcher.

You're looking at the 2004 results there, but Bush still got over 50% in Fayette in 2000 too.
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2007, 06:23:21 am »
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Nader was not even on the ballot where I was.
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2007, 11:21:24 am »
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I think you misunderstand the question.  I looked it up for you - it's three (Greenup, Lyon and Rowan).

Also Fayette for certain, and probably also Letcher (unless Gore actually carried it anyway).

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Bush got 52.88% in Fayette and 52.96% in Letcher.

You're looking at the 2004 results there, but Bush still got over 50% in Fayette in 2000 too.

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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2007, 02:06:06 pm »
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Quite a few, including my home county Sad

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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2007, 09:51:35 pm »
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Nader wasn't on the ballot in N.C.
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2007, 12:03:20 am »
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Two, Somerset and Ocean. Cape May County would have been absurdly close.
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2007, 10:30:13 pm »
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Nader tipped both Travis County to Bush (by obtaining over 10%) and Kleberg County (by obtaining 1.42%)
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2007, 06:35:09 pm »
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None. Nader was only on the ballot as a write-in and only gained a significant amount of votes around Clarke County (college town), which went for Gore anyway.
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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2007, 04:58:58 pm »
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(adding 100% of Nader's tally to Gore's)
Maine - Lincoln, Penobscot, Waldo
NH - Hillsborough, Rockingham
VT - Orange, Orleans
NY - Cortland, Dutchess, Oswego, Otsego, Saratoga
NJ - has been done
PA - none (there's only county that Bush won with under 50% of the vote, Monroe, and he outpolled Gore+Nader by 7 votes there)
OH - Columbiana, Harrison, Stark. Ottawa would be an exact tie
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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2007, 05:11:45 pm »
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IN - Monroe, unsurprisingly
IL - Marion, Vermilion, Winnebago
MI - Alger, Gladwin, St Clair, Schoolcraft, Shiawassee
WI - 13 counties, which I don't feel like listing. Go to the 2000 results page. All the R40 shade counties except Manitowoc and Wood.
MN - has been done
IA - Fayette, Jasper, Palo Alto, Poweshiek, Warren, Winneshiek
In addition, Hagelin cost Gore Jefferson Co.
MO, ND, NE - none
SD - Nader not on ballot
KS - Atchison, Crawford, Shawnee
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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2007, 05:28:37 pm »
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VA - Albemarle, Fairfax, Nelson, Westmoreland, Wise counties, Radford, Williamsburg cities
NC, Ga, KY have been done
SC - none
FL - Madison
TN - Coffee
MS - Chickasaw (despite Nader finishing behind Buchanan)
AR - Conway, Sevier
LA - Red River, Martin
OK - none
TX - has been done
MT - Missoula
ID, WY - none
CO - Clear Creek, Conejos, Eagle, Gunnison, La Plata, Routt
NM - Sandoval
AZ - Pinal
Utah, Nevada - none
WA - has been done
OR - Clackamas, Tillamook
CA - Alpine, SB, San Joaquin, Ventura
AK - House Districts 13, 15, 16, 29, 39
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2007, 05:58:14 pm »
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(adding 100% of Nader's tally to Gore's)
Maine - Lincoln, Penobscot, Waldo
NH - Hillsborough, Rockingham
VT - Orange, Orleans
NY - Cortland, Dutchess, Oswego, Otsego, Saratoga
NJ - has been done
PA - none (there's only county that Bush won with under 50% of the vote, Monroe, and he outpolled Gore+Nader by 7 votes there)
OH - Columbiana, Harrison, Stark. Ottawa would be an exact tie


IN - Monroe, unsurprisingly
IL - Marion, Vermilion, Winnebago
MI - Alger, Gladwin, St Clair, Schoolcraft, Shiawassee
WI - 13 counties, which I don't feel like listing. Go to the 2000 results page. All the R40 shade counties except Manitowoc and Wood.
MN - has been done
IA - Fayette, Jasper, Palo Alto, Poweshiek, Warren, Winneshiek
In addition, Hagelin cost Gore Jefferson Co.
MO, ND, NE - none
SD - Nader not on ballot
KS - Atchison, Crawford, Shawnee

VA - Albemarle, Fairfax, Nelson, Westmoreland, Wise counties, Radford, Williamsburg cities
NC, Ga, KY have been done
SC - none
FL - Madison
TN - Coffee
MS - Chickasaw (despite Nader finishing behind Buchanan)
AR - Conway, Sevier
LA - Red River, Martin
OK - none
TX - has been done
MT - Missoula
ID, WY - none
CO - Clear Creek, Conejos, Eagle, Gunnison, La Plata, Routt
NM - Sandoval
AZ - Pinal
Utah, Nevada - none
WA - has been done
OR - Clackamas, Tillamook
CA - Alpine, SB, San Joaquin, Ventura
AK - House Districts 13, 15, 16, 29, 39

Does anyone have the time to list which of these counties voted for Kerry in 2004?

Off the top of my head, I think Travis (TX), Stark (OH), Alpine (CA), and Monroe (IN) did.
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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2007, 06:03:42 pm »
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Of the top off mine, the Vermont ones, Jefferson IA, Albemarle and Fairfax VA, Missoula, and I'm fairly sure at least some of the Colorado ones.
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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2007, 12:57:12 pm »
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Nader was only on the ballot as a write-in...

Uh... I don't believe that you are on the ballot if you are a write-in. Cool
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2007, 04:15:49 pm »
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Nader was only on the ballot as a write-in...

Uh... I don't believe that you are on the ballot if you are a write-in. Cool

There was clearly a spot on the Georgia ballot that said "Write in Nader please:"
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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2007, 05:36:35 pm »
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Nader was only on the ballot as a write-in...

Uh... I don't believe that you are on the ballot if you are a write-in. Cool

There was clearly a spot on the Georgia ballot that said "Write in Nader please:"

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« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2007, 11:02:13 pm »
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Cortland
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Oswego

Nassau went to Gore by 19.44, so the only impact Nader had was holding Gore to under a 20% victory.
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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2007, 06:48:54 am »
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I'm just curious as to how many counties were close enough that a change in votes for Nader going to Gore would have made gore the victor in the given county. In my home state of Washington Gore would have won 2 more counties.

Nader got .95% of the vote in Tennessee. Had their been no Nader, only one county would have swung to Gore. I am surprised that Gore lost his home state and with it the election, but I sure am glad.
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